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Darius Kazemi

Trying to take the temperature here - if I held a zoom chat where I talked about setting up and maintaining a Mastodon or Hometown server, would you attend? I would put the video online afterward too.

This would not be an in-depth how-to, I would be outlining general steps and talking about the time commitment and some things I've learned re: governance or lack thereof.

Anonymous poll

Poll

I'd attend if timing works and participate
51
14.4%
I'd attend if timing works and lurk
80
22.6%
I'd watch the video after
157
44.4%
I don't know why I'm voting in this poll
66
18.6%
354 people voted.
Voting ended 31 Oct 2022 at 16:25.
30 Oct 2022 at 16:25 | Open on friend.camp
28 comments
𝓻𝓻𝓪

@darius happy to chip in with our experiences, good and bad, with post.lurk.org!

30 Oct 2022 at 16:26 | Open on post.lurk.org
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Matt Noyes

@darius If it's about Hometown specifically, but I should change my vote to lurk since I think much of it would be beyond my skill level... You could always use Meet.Coop or Jitsi ;-)

30 Oct 2022 at 16:37 | Open on social.coop
Darius Kazemi

@Matt_Noyes my audience is people who might be new to decentralized and open technologies, I'd like the video software to not provide an additional level of unfamiliarity

30 Oct 2022 at 16:50 | Open on friend.camp
Kommadieb 🍿

@darius I'd find a video live stream + audiece text chat on YouTube, Twitch, Peertube, Owncast, even Instagram a lower barrier to entry than Zoom, tbh. // Just my (less than) 2ct – I don't even know you or your audience; find it just curious how different the perception of "unfamiliar" software seems to be for us. Zoom is beyond my world.

30 Oct 2022 at 20:11 | Open on mstdn.social
ch0ccyra1n :she_her::neocat_floof_cute:

@darius would you be able to host it using Jitsi instead? Zoom has a lot of privacy issues and Jitsi is also more intuitive based on opinions of people I've had try it out.

30 Oct 2022 at 16:44 | Open on emeraldsocial.org
Darius Kazemi

@ch0ccyra1n nope. people who are that level of privacy conscious can consume the video after the fact

30 Oct 2022 at 21:47 | Open on friend.camp
guenther

@darius there's an initiative of people doing the same in German, but they are using bigbluebutton instead of zoom, which imho is the better choice

dresden.network/@ueckueck/1092

30 Oct 2022 at 16:56 | Open on chaos.social
emilyriederer

@darius Please do this! That would be fantastic

30 Oct 2022 at 17:25 | Open on mastodon.social
Vivek Gani

@darius would such a presentation get into how one *shouldn't* get into running mastodon (either individual burnout a la mastodon.technology or not budgeting for expenses/moderation)?

30 Oct 2022 at 17:55 | Open on mastodon.social
Paul Neave

@darius I’d be interested to know more. My immediate concerns are around scaling costs, user data handling/privacy, moderation and the problems therein.

30 Oct 2022 at 18:11 | Open on mastodon.social
Woozle Hypertwin

@darius In a slightly different timestream where I have adequate time to pursue things that interest me, I would attend and possibly even participate.

(As it is, my brain needs more CPU cores.)

31 Oct 2022 at 0:28 | Open on toot.cat
Ramsey Haddad

@darius Not sure. It would be technically very interesting. But I am honest enough with myself to know that I wouldn't end up using it because my internet is too slow for me to sacrifice bandwidth for that. Plus I'm not sure I want to leave a computer on 24/7.

31 Oct 2022 at 6:46 | Open on mastodon.social
Guillotine

@darius I don't do video conferencing. But I do appreciate proper instructiinal videos.

31 Oct 2022 at 7:41 | Open on kith.kitchen
Hans Gerwitz

@darius in the meantime, can you share any wisdom regarding hosting Hometown on a Heroku-ish service (like Railway.app)?

31 Oct 2022 at 15:27 | Open on chaos.social
Darius Kazemi

@gerwitz that's a pretty vague request, sorry, I can't!

31 Oct 2022 at 15:47 | Open on friend.camp
Hans Gerwitz

@darius heh, sorry. Just fishing for something like “that sounds like a terrible idea because federation traffic kills quotas”.

I will experiment and share!

31 Oct 2022 at 15:53 | Open on chaos.social
Darius Kazemi

@gerwitz according to their FAQ, Railway does not "encourage" ssh'ing in and getting a shell, and you're going to need shell access on the actual server at some point or another I think (if you are the technical admin). At that point I would recommend getting a managed host like SpaceBear or Fedi Monster

31 Oct 2022 at 16:03 | Open on friend.camp
Hans Gerwitz

@darius ah, thanks. I guess I ought to run a test install locally just to learn things like “this isn’t just a Rails app” 😆

31 Oct 2022 at 16:06 | Open on chaos.social
Darius Kazemi

@gerwitz It's a rails app with a react frontend and a bunch of services that aren't just the rails DB, like a sidekiq redis queue, etc. It might work in Railway! I just can't imagine doing this without at least occasional shell access

31 Oct 2022 at 16:09 | Open on friend.camp
Hans Gerwitz

@darius since I have your attention… how do you differentiate Hometown vs. glitch-soc? My own needs seem well addressed by both (better embedded-media handling, local posts)

31 Oct 2022 at 16:14 | Open on chaos.social
Darius Kazemi

@gerwitz hometown has fewer features than glitch and is less experimental overall

31 Oct 2022 at 21:38 | Open on friend.camp
Jon

@darius i got here too late for the poll but i'd attend and either lurk or participate depending on if i had something to add

1 Nov 2022 at 22:21 | Open on indieweb.social
poswald

@darius I would set up something like friend.camp (I already run a IRL community in Tokyo) but probably don't have the time commitment to dedicate to it. Really interested in how that has been for you. I also just want to get off the mastodon.social server to help it cope. Maybe I should just join dolphin.town :-D

2 Nov 2022 at 1:52 | Open on mastodon.social
Miakoda

@darius I haven't heard of Hometown. What is it? What I can infer from the name sounds interesting

2 Nov 2022 at 20:31 | Open on pdx.social
Darius Kazemi

@hellomiakoda it is a fork of Mastodon that is 99% similar to Mastodon with a few tweaks. Notably it supports posts that do not federate, which allows for a level of community dialogue without worrying about wider fediverse context.

I try to keep the documentation very clear and hopefully this explains what you need to know:

github.com/hometown-fork/homet

2 Nov 2022 at 23:53 | Open on friend.camp
Miakoda

@darius
That is very interesting. I think my instance could have benefitted from that fork

3 Nov 2022 at 1:25 | Open on pdx.social
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