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Eugen Rochko

Mastodon does not store passwords in plain text. This is trivial to confirm as Mastodon is an open-source project. We use the bcrypt algorithm for one-way hashing of passwords. I can't believe someone is spreading misinformation about something so trivial to debunk.

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Prana

@Gargron I'm quite confused since the owner post on blue bird app said that this app storing password in plaintext ... I mean, it almost impossible since it's easy to get attack yet you give us the Security details in the documentation.

Logically.

Ujangie ( ・ω・)

@Gargron well at least we know it's quite secure for us

Skyp

@Gargron
lol, anyone that has ever programmed anything with a password knows if you try to view it in the script, its just a black box, from my experience anyways...

Xuanyi

@Gargron I am quite surprised at first, but eventhough this announcement can make us be relieved could you please ensure us to be able to enjoy this platform? Thanks for the explanation!

Xuanyi

@Gargron I'm still trusting this platform though, Thanks Eugen.

Wooseok :sadness:

@Gargron eugen. just please i don't know anything about code blabla i just want to roleplay happily because twitter sucks. :cate: :angery: :cwy: :cwy: :cwy: :cwy: :cwy: :cwy:

Vigdis

@Gargron was the bug with special chars in password fixed?

TEN

@Gargron please make this simple because im dizzy looking someone with same username bit different domain

TU.

@Gargron Eugen, please don’t betray us, take care of this platform! If it grows this will become a big platform and will be used by many people, I hope you can protect your user data. Have a nice day!

TEN

@Gargron please make this simple because im dizzy looking someone with same username but different domain

Wooseok :sadness:

@Gargron I JUST WANNA THANK TO YOU BECAUSE YOU MADE THIS PLATFROM SERIOUSLY I HATE JACK BECAUSE HE EAT MY ACCOUNTS ON TWITTER WITH NO REASON. WE NEED HAPPY PLACE JUST TO ROLEPLAY.

AARRRRGGHHHH THERE ARE SO MANY THOUGHTS I WANT TO SAY.

sorry :angery: :angery: :cate: :cate: :cate: :cate: :cwy: :cwy: :cwy: :cwy:

Wooseok :sadness:

@Gargron eugen. i wanna say that please just be like this. be fast respond and listen to mastodon user since you are the owner because we need master-nim (?) like that. it is just like you are the king of this platform (?)

what did i just say :cate: :cate: :cate: :cate: okay sorry.

Raven

@Gargron Whoever spreads the news that isn't necessarily true, is really bad.

Jekiii V. Abudan

@Gargron I was very surprised when I read the fake news. thankyou for confirming that this is not true. lets do the best development for the app . Cheer up !!

Skyp

@Gargron

coming back to this this thread 30min later.. >.< ...lol, if people ever knew exactly how much information internet giants collected from them they'd be deleting thier accounts faster than this rumor was spreading. haha

shp :blobshp:
@Gargron ..where does such a rumor even come from?
papamogul

@Gargron I dont think this about technical things, this is about envy capitalist because they cannot put ads on this platforms

Fais grève (8% génie)

Hello @Gargron thank you for your work 🙂
I trust Open Source Software and I trust you 👍
Thank you for the information (even if the initial fake news didn't come to me)

Mecha Code 👺

@Gargron Bcrypt is a pleasure to use, it's as easy as plan text. Why no use it?

Eugen Rochko

The tweet with the misinformation got shared 1395 times, my response 85 times...

gudenau

@Gargron And now you see how misinformation works. People like to be offended more than they like to know the truth.

Mastodon Headline News

SCIENCE: Empirical Accxperiment By @Gargron Suggests That A Juicy Untruth May Travel As Quickly As Six Times The Speed Of Truth!

Skyp

@Gargron

Got no logic to back this statement up;

However,

It maybe worth looking into if the other platform uses this as a strategy to fear users from switching when they noticed a huge drop in account numbers. :/

Gera Zoltán 🚲 :ik:

@Gargron This is particularly sad for me as this huge difference could happen without the help of a recommender system. I always thought that ok, there is human behavior but we also need ML to magnify it so much. However, it was blown here quite well without it.

Eugen Rochko

@gerazo No, I meant tweet when I said tweet. The misinformation and my response I'm talking about are on Twitter.

Gera Zoltán 🚲 :ik:

@Gargron Ohh, thanks. That sound much better!

In this case, it was just the normal way of a recommender blowing up stuff. I wonder how big the original human response could be. I have a feeling that is not even necessary larger: it is just comes earlier because we are motivated to click on more dangerous, cognitially more challenging things first before the convenient reassurance.

Gera Zoltán 🚲 :ik:

@Gargron Ohh, thanks. That sound much better!

In this case, it was just the normal way of a recommender blowing up stuff. I wonder how big the original human response could be. I have a feeling that is not even necessary larger: it just comes earlier because we are motivated to click on more dangerous, cognitially more challenging things first before the convenient reassurance.

coyote
@Gargron I haven't heard this until now, weird how Mastodon doesn't hash passwords :akko_thonk:
Eugen Rochko

@coyote Shouldn't you be busy malding because you can't follow some mirror bot right now

coyote
@Gargron I'm busy with a lot of things, if a retard like you has the time to stalk my page, I'll take the space (rent-free), thanks

Hey while you're here, are you ever going to account for starting the spying program EUnomia which gives a social credit score to fedi users?

Why not upgrade mastodon from 500 chars? too busy gagging on Dorsey's dick?

Why do you incite anger and division between different communities?

You really don't understand your bad moves lead people to not like you? And people really ask "who could have done such a thing?"

Eugen, you did it to yourself. Consider offing yourself.
@Gargron I'm busy with a lot of things, if a retard like you has the time to stalk my page, I'll take the space (rent-free), thanks

Hey while you're here, are you ever going to account for starting the spying program EUnomia which gives a social credit score to fedi users?
coyote
@Gargron Like, I ask you legitimate questions that more than enough people want answers from, and you write it off as if this is just me being pissed off. No, you don't get to pretend something you did is good just because someone you don't like brings it up. Again: this is of your own doing. The rumors probably won't stop until you are done developing and out of the public eye.
Eugen Rochko

@coyote I mean, you're basically infowars-levels of deluded, you kinda have to dig yourself out of this one yourself

coyote
@Gargron ecks dee speak for yourself my dude, I've seen you ban multiple Venezuelans because they disagreed with your opinion of their country and you dogpiled them calling them "Nazis"

don't talk to me of truth or of principles, you're far from exemplary.
Eugen Rochko

@coyote Yeah, that never happened. For one, I do not have any particular opinions on Venezuela and Nicolas Maduro keeps happily posting on mastodon.social along with his thousands of followers. Secondly, there is exactly one post authored by me that contains the word "nazi", and it is from 2016. Thirdly, I don't ban anyone, because that's the job of the 3 moderators who work here.

coyote
@Gargron You implied he was dogwhistling and he was banned after replying to your praise of Venezuela. I understand you may not remember this, but I do. I believe you when you say you don't mod, that actually makes sense, but what I'm actually curious about is EUnomia, I wasn't saying this for any reason but to prove you wrong.
Eugen Rochko

@coyote When have I ever praised Venezuela either? Do you have any receipts I am genuinely curious now.

Eunomia is a cool project that has nothing in common with spying or credit scores. It’s like a helper toolkit for your home feed to get more context for posts according to your own criteria. It is also completely walled off from the actual fediverse so nobody who hasn’t consented participates in it. I suggest following its account for updates and more information.

coyote
@Gargron "It’s like a helper toolkit for your home feed to get more context for posts according to your own criteria."

You're a lying cunt, you nigger-faggot piece of shit.

>EUNOMIA is a 3-year EU-funded Innovation Action project. Its goal is to assist users of social media to:
>
> - Identify the provenance of information;
> - Assess online information and
> - Protect their network from misinformation.
>
>The project develops a decentralised and open-source solution for social media users to raise awareness and enable active participation in the trustworthiness verification process.


So this has everything to do with social credit scores, with trustworthiness of users, and with spying on people.

again from your own website, eunomia.social it talks about fighting misinformation:

> The challenge of the infodemic
> Misinformation is a societal challenge with multiple layers. We argue that all social media users can adopt information hygiene routines to protect themselves and their network against the 'infodemic’ of rapidly spreading misinformation. Information hygiene is not the same as guidelines for detecting fake news. To use the medical analogy, hygiene is not about actively looking for pathogens, but about routines that reduce the risk of infection on a daily basis. Similarly, we define information hygiene as the practice of following daily routines that reduce the risk of acting upon and sharing misinformation to one’s network.

So by creating a trustworthiness (social credit) score, users can submit themselves to the botnet of EUnomia to have their posts analyzed for factuality and correctness. I don't see how what you're doing isn't lying.
@Gargron "It’s like a helper toolkit for your home feed to get more context for posts according to your own criteria."

You're a lying cunt, you nigger-faggot piece of shit.
FLM

@Gargron@mastodon.socia
@thegibson Been a while when I realised that some websites link to each other as a source to "validate" weird stuff like "secret governments", nazis on the dark side and so on. So it doesn´t surprise me some goofy goober is spreading this. People use "google searches" as sources to their so called scientific work. "The internetz" is full of weird shit.

grin

@Gargron Of course you don't understand since you live in Middle Africa!

;-)
#quality #fakenews

Santiago

@Gargron
I recently read that fake news spread 6 times faster than real ones... so...

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