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Chris Trottier

6. During the past 5 years, Mastodon (and the Fediverse) has gradually shifted towards four core groups:

1. Programmers & tech enthusiasts
2. LGBTQIA+
3. Furries
4. Neurodivergent

Each group has become protective of their space.

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Chris Trottier

7. Every time there's a crisis on Twitter (Birdsite) or Facebook (Booksite), there's a new wave of sign-ups to Mastodon and the Fediverse.

Most of these users don't stay because Mastodon is not a clone of those services. But some stay.

Chris Trottier

8. Six months ago, I decided to make the Fediverse my social media home. While I stay on mastodon.social for quick status updates, I've also set up my own Pixelfed instance at peerverse.social -- which I update every day.

Chris Trottier

9. As a frequent user of Mastodon and Pixelfed, I make monthly monetary donations to both those projects. Since I plan on building my instance(s), I've been thinking of increasing these donations.

Chris Trottier

10. It's important to remember that the bulk of the Fediverse is not made by multi-billion dollar corporations.

Mastodon is a non-profit.

Pixelfed is made by @dansup, and he does it part-time.

And there are many other projects.

Chris Trottier

11. Right now, there are only 1.5 million active users on the Fediverse. This is minuscule compared to Twitter. Nevertheless, I get more social interaction on the Fediverse than I do on Twitter.

Chris Trottier replied to Chris

12. The Fediverse needs investment. Not everyone agrees with this notion because some prefer that it be a hobbyist enclave. For its own long term survival, it needs infrastructure that scales. Not even Mastodon can handle growth.

Chris Trottier replied to Chris

13. Over the past year, I've developed enough working knowledge to run a Fediverse instance. The best way to grow the Fediverse is to setup an instance. I'm by no means a sysadmin, but I've learn how to do it.

Chris Trottier replied to Chris

14. With Elon Musk's purchase of Twitter, government and media SHOULD adopt the Fediverse.

But WILL they?

Not until there's a crisis that forces their hand. Which there will be -- it's just a matter of when.

Chris Trottier replied to Chris

15. Yesterday, Elon Musk sent out a pro-Russian tweet.

Do you think the Ukraine government wants to be on Twitter right now?

What about the EU? What about NATO?

I guarantee they're looking at the Fediverse as an alternative.

Chris Trottier replied to Chris

16. Right now is the calm before the storm. People won't leave Twitter until they have to. Eventually, they will.

So how do we all prepare for this eventuality.

Chris Trottier replied to Chris

17. Recommendations for building the Fediverse prior to the next mass migration:

1. BUILD instances -- lots of them
2. DONATE to Fediverse projects
3. If you must use Twitter, automatically cross-post FROM the Fediverse

Chris Trottier replied to Chris

18. Building the Fediverse isn't just a matter of finding a Twitter or Facebook alternative.

It's about building a ROBUST social media infrastructure that is protected from the whims of shareholders and governments.

Chris Trottier replied to Chris

19. Am I going to be sad about the "old" Fediverse? Yes I am.

No one likes change but change to social media is coming.

The great thing about ActivityPub is that we are not a slave to opaque algorithms. We can build better social media.

Chris Trottier replied to Chris

20. It's time ⏱️

Elon Musk's takeover of Twitter is imminent. It's costing him $44 billion.

For the fraction of the cost, you can build the alternative. And it already works.

/end thread

Rysiekúr Memesson 🇺🇦 replied to Chris

@atomicpoet wonderful, thoughtful thread. Thank you!

One thing I would point out is that it's not either-or. We don't have to lose the "old Fediverse" to be able to build it out as a robust, mainstream social network.

There will always be nooks and crannies, some will not federate with the Big Network, some will, but the beauty of a standardized protocol with a bunch of independent implementations is that we *can* have those.

And the beauty of no "real name policy" is alts.

We can have both.

Chris Trottier replied to Rysiekúr Memesson 🇺🇦

@rysiek I agree with you. If you want to preserve part of the old Fediverse, nothing is stopping you from building an enclave. Nevertheless, the Big Network will change.

Rysiekúr Memesson 🇺🇦 replied to Chris

@atomicpoet fully agreed.

I just think it's important to keep that possibility in mind. The reason being: I've seen a lot of pushback against newcomers and changes that is not doing anyone any good. I feel if we communicated more clearly that it's not an either-or and we can have both, the pushback and internal fedi struggle around these changes would be lesser.

Anyway, thanks again for the thread and for engaging!

kravietz 🦇 replied to Rysiekúr Memesson 🇺🇦

@rysiek

The best part of Fediverse is that unlike IRC it does not bind you in any way to any existing community or its rules. Which sometimes does have its charm, but sometimes are just a way of patronising and exercising tribal pressure.

The only thing that should be actively promoted and announced on every step is the fact that you can and should run your own instance, because this is a completely novel concept for those coming from walled gardens.

Also, if everyone just jumps on one of the few popular instances, we’ll end up with a social media version of Bitcoin, actually controlled by just a few massive pools in just a few countries.

@atomicpoet

@rysiek

The best part of Fediverse is that unlike IRC it does not bind you in any way to any existing community or its rules. Which sometimes does have its charm, but sometimes are just a way of patronising and exercising tribal pressure.

The only thing that should be actively promoted and announced on every step is the fact that you can and should run your own instance, because this is a completely novel concept for those coming from walled gardens.

midway replied to Chris
@atomicpoet You don’t buy Twitter for the software or even the infrastructure. You are buying their brand and user base. That’s why the issue of bots was important
Brother Soul replied to Chris

@atomicpoet also Facts. Big Up's for this this m8.

Soul

Angie P. 🏳️‍🌈🏳️‍⚧️ replied to Chris

@atomicpoet I'm one of today's new signups. This is a wonderful thread. Thank you.

Joe Ortiz replied to Chris

@atomicpoet In any rate, this is a very informative thread and thanks for dojng this!

Victor Venema replied to Chris

@atomicpoet I would like the Fediverse to be for everyone and have seen incumbents explain newbies rather aggressively how to behave, but I think the main reason people do not stick around is that we are substantive and boring. Those are explicit design choices of the current Fediverse systems.

Twitter is an additive outrage machine (that not only benefited from the rise of Fascism, but also helped it), that is a subsystem the Fediverse does not have (yet).

kunt replied to Chris

@atomicpoet A great thread.

I've read a few suggestions about how the Fediverse should evolve into, but most proposals are akin to building another reddit. Each instance/sub has its own rules, requires moderation, and can still be flooded by bots.

The difference is that there's no central admin, e.g. flat-earthers can stay in their own instance; but other instance can ban the whole lot instead of individuals.

How's the Fediverse architect going to prevent org from automating instance and a/c?

Amici Nybråten replied to Chris

@atomicpoet What do you mean by the "old"? The point of the Fediverse is *voluntary federation*, no flood gates open up unless people on instances intend for it to happen.

Chris Trottier replied to Amici

@amici I'm talking about culture. Even over the past 6 months, it's changed. This isn't a bad thing.

Culture isn't something that is in stasis forever.

AlisonW ♿ replied to Chris

@atomicpoet re instances, it's fine running your own (I did for a while) but it's lonely as you aren't as discoverable. Likewise it's global or nothing.

💙💛:~/eu/pl/priv$:idle: replied to Chris

@atomicpoet That is exactly what I am doing:
- I'm running my own instance
- I sponsor another server on which i also have an account
- I do not tweet except for comments and posts/crossposts from fediverse
- I'm not linking from fediverse to corpo-media

Alex@rtnVFRmedia Suffolk UK replied to Chris

@atomicpoet parts of the German government (mostly tech related) and some EU organisations are already on here, there's also a TV presenter (of factual/science programmes) who is on telly literally every week who posts here every so often..

Vincent Cloutier replied to Chris

@atomicpoet the EU actually has its own instance already @EU_Commission

Crystal (melting) replied to Chris
@atomicpoet as much as i dislike elon, he is right in this case. Its not even pro-russian tweet, its just being rational. He described the shortest path to peace. But whatever...
ironicmoka replied to Chris

@atomicpoet just to point out that EU is already on mastodon: they opened an official instance earlier this April. And (less obvious) official EU accounts still posts daily updates. Not so much engagement so far but it’s game on.

pcmag.com/news/eu-joins-mastod

midway replied to Chris
@atomicpoet I like running my own instance. I tried Mastodon on a VSP for a while but I eventually settled on Soapbox on my own gear. It was much easier to set up and I like what the devs are doing. I’m even running a couple of boys in my instance that I forked from another open source project. It’s been a fun process.
ringo replied to Chris

@atomicpoet because the conversation died in 2010 on twitter.

thats when the bots started coming in, and other stuff..

BobC replied to Chris

@atomicpoet
No one knows what exactly the algorithm does on twitter, but it has to have significant random factor.

I would guess that when people sign up, they get a sort of digital "lottery draw" in the background which semi permanently sets their visibility. Dynamic factors may later alter that, but barring that, some hit the jackpot and others don't.

How else are you going manage the visibility of 100's of millions... may as well be randomly set from sign-up onwards.

@atomicpoet
No one knows what exactly the algorithm does on twitter, but it has to have significant random factor.

I would guess that when people sign up, they get a sort of digital "lottery draw" in the background which semi permanently sets their visibility. Dynamic factors may later alter that, but barring that, some hit the jackpot and others don't.

Kye Fox

@atomicpoet !

I forgot all about Pixelfed. A relative gifted me a phone upgrade and I've been trying to think of where I want to post photos taken with its better cameras. I already have @Kye on pixelfed's flagship instance, so I'll go with that

Kolokoko Bird!

@atomicpoet I think the other reason that many don’t stay is that the Mastodon community is not that great at welcoming new users and helping them to feel at home.

Chris Trottier

@KolokokoBird This is true. In the past, I've had certain folks get hostile to me because I said that the Fediverse should be for everyone.

And I stand by that notion.

Arindam Basu

@KolokokoBird @atomicpoet

Well that may be true; but also, the sheer volume of doom scrolling in twitter for #lazyweb could be another attraction for some. Plus all that nonsense. #fediverse in comparison, is more substantive.

Kolokoko Bird!

@arin_basu @atomicpoet As it is now, I think the users who stick around are those who are able to read instructions and persevere. That does select for a subset of people that I particularly like, so it works for me. 🙂

Arindam Basu

@KolokokoBird @atomicpoet

Well said! For me too, 'subset of people I particularly like' and feel safe to discuss things as well. Nice, safe, interactive, get to discover new people and topics, what more can you ask from a 'social media app', and what more rewards will satisfy people 🙂 ?

Chris Trottier replied to Arindam

@arin_basu @KolokokoBird I'll be real. I wish critical communications were delivered through the Fediverse. I don't want to be checking Twitter to find out health policy and economic data.

Arindam Basu replied to Chris

@atomicpoet @KolokokoBird
Of course and why not. I think @lightweight has on numerous occasions argued this with the MoH and others exhorting them to use #fediverse and even offered to host sites. Beats me why a sovereign government cannot host their own server-based channels instead of depending on the likes of #birdsite and #booksite. Crying shame!

kunt replied to Arindam

@arin_basu @atomicpoet @KolokokoBird @lightweight
Exposure.
Audience reach.
Utilisation of existing technologies instead of spending taxpayers' money shouting in an empty room.

I don't know which country you reside in but afair a lot of them has the same if not more detailed announcement on their own Health Department websites.

Alan

@atomicpoet there will also be a wave of another type of user: people like me who never used Twitter or Facebook but just heard about Mastodon and find the idea fascinating.

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