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Darius Kazemi

@jplebreton @brennen @cypnk I mean for starters the usual reliance on a keyboard/mouse combo with a screen that doesn't have touch control is kind of a barrier right away

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JP

@darius @brennen @cypnk Yeah! I'm a bit torn about that because while touchscreens are nearly always the best way to meet a user with zero computer experience where they are, keyboarding specifically is an onramp to so many valuable computing and participation-in-society activities. My general design sense usually suggests, start as basic as possible, build up, and help people realize when they're ready for more, and eventually they remove their own training wheels when it's time.

brennen

@darius @jplebreton @cypnk right - probably true - which immediately gets you into how thoroughly opaque and wholly-owned the mobile platforms are. i got into programming by way of typing BASIC listings out of a crappy math textbook into qbasic and having a teacher show me hypercard on a school mac. what's the equivalent attack surface on an iphone or an android device? i'm pretty sure it essentially just doesn't exist.

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