@fribbledom on the supply side though, i think in earlier times more major corporations would be run by people who were actually proud of their product and have been involved in their development personally for a long time

nowadays the investment company shareholders fill all those ranks wherever they can with entirely mercenary predators whose entire motivation doesn't even rise to the level of simulacrum but is instead just a self-serving abstracted mind-virus of extracting capital gains regardless of context or consequences