Gregory's Server@bouncing @jramskov @stroughtonsmith iPhones was switching to USB-C anyway. Wasn’t thanks to EU legislation. iPad started switching in like 2018.
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 @jramskov @bouncing @stroughtonsmith Apple was very clear in their argument, and they remain opposed to the mandate: it’s about the future, when they might come up with something better than USB-C. @gruber @bouncing @stroughtonsmith They also argued about all the existing kables that would become waste. I understand they want to control everything, but standards are generally a good thing and makes for a better experience for everyone. if they come up with a great new standard, it should be a new open standard that replaces USB-C for everyone. @gruber @jramskov @bouncing @stroughtonsmith 50% of their argument was also about the e-waste switching to usb-c would create. Based on their argument, it’s not at all clear when if ever they would switch https://www.theverge.com/2020/1/17/21070848/eu-apple-european-commission-common-charger-lightning-cable-port @callin @jramskov @bouncing @stroughtonsmith If they hadn’t switched, the new ProRes Log video capture wouldn’t be available. They wouldn’t be able to shoot their own keynotes on iPhones. https://support.apple.com/guide/iphone/record-prores-videos-iphde02c478d/ios  @stroughtonsmith @callin @jramskov @bouncing “Imagine” is indeed the operative word.  @gruber @stroughtonsmith @callin @jramskov @bouncing I think Steve's point here is that the USB-C mandate hasn't prevented Apple from innovating as they argued it would. It goes to show that the multi-trillion dollar company that they are will always be able to innovate, regardless of the regulations imposed on it. So perhaps they should just comply with them instead of acting like a spoiled child and relying on this disproven argument. @gergely @gruber @stroughtonsmith @callin @jramskov @bouncing If you created the playground, and it’s one of the only two playgrounds in the neighborhood, and you are actively making sure that only *your* kids can win or even play at the games on offer, then I’m sorry but you’re just a bully. And I better hope the city steps in to ensure that every kid in that neighborhood can play. @nileane @gruber @stroughtonsmith @callin @jramskov What confuses me about this discourse is that they are complying. This is what compliance looks like. @bouncing @nileane @gruber @stroughtonsmith @callin Isn't the EC still looking at whether Apple is actually in compliance or not? @jramskov @nileane @gruber @stroughtonsmith @callin Some legal jostling was always inevitable. And whatever tweaks come down the pike, I doubt they’ll be substantially different and I doubt they’ll satisfy the peanut gallery. Also the fact that it’s far from obvious whether they’re in compliance is evidence of a badly written law. @bouncing @nileane @gruber @stroughtonsmith @callin Perhaps, but I don’t completely buy that argument. Legal matters seems often take time. They have to make sure the judgement is right and fair. At the same time it is new regulation that everyone needs to become comfortable with. @jramskov @nileane @gruber @stroughtonsmith @callin What would need to happen for it to be clearly good or bad? Or mixed? @bouncing @nileane @gruber @stroughtonsmith @callin That’s not easy to answer 🙂 I hope it’ll reign in some of the extraordinary power these huge corporations have. @jramskov @bouncing @nileane @stroughtonsmith @callin None of this is a “legal matter”. The EU never found Apple guilty of violating any crime. None of this back and forth is happening through a court system. It’s all regulatory. Very different. @gruber @stroughtonsmith @jramskov @bouncing Now imagine being a business executive having to choose between the revenue of the MFA program, and shooting the keynote in a slightly better format. @callin @stroughtonsmith @jramskov @bouncing MFA has been negligible for years. Really hasn’t been important to Apple since the iPod era. Lightning being proprietary didn’t make any serious money for Apple. Nada. @callin @stroughtonsmith @jramskov @bouncing What does make money for Apple is selling their own branded $20-30 cables. They sell just as many USB-C cables as they ever did at Lightning’s peak.  @stroughtonsmith @gruber @callin @jramskov @bouncing my day job (security) will be indeed lot more interesting if they are forced to do all of this . @callin @gruber @bouncing @stroughtonsmith The e-waste argument I don’t buy at all. For one, they could’ve started by making their lightning cables more solid. |
@gruber @bouncing @stroughtonsmith I’m not convinced Apple would have switched by now - they argued a lot against it. Why would they do that if they were going to switch?
At least that seems strange to me, but I’m not a strategy mastermind 😄