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MadMike77

@reidrac Emacs on non-US keyboards is a lot harder to learn than vim.
I know that it's still possible to use on non-US layout (mine is DE_CH btw) but it's another hoop to take and most emacs tutorials don't care to even hint at that possible problem.

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cmdrSprocket

@MadMike77 @reidrac on tablets (no direct esc key) vim is kinda painful.

Juan

@cmdrSprocket @MadMike77 tablets aren't designed for typing, IMHO.

I love a nice mechanical keyboard, not generally fan of laptop keyboards either 🤷

Steven G. Harms

@reidrac @cmdrSprocket @MadMike77 oh hi! I’m using blink on iPad + mosh + external keyboard and have a very reliable and light coding platform (paired to virtual private server).

Also control+[ is a fine escape. I also have “jk” bound to escape. I'd argue that having your home row nonsense key pair ('jk') be escape is a highly-efficient optimization.

Juan

@MadMike77 that's true, but also true for general programming. Some layouts are just worse.

I'm on ISO UK at the moment despite not being my native layout, and it is much better. Less "chords" for common things you write a lot in most programming languages.

I tried US ANSI a couple of times but that enter key... anyway.

Tommy Thorn

@MadMike77 @reidrac I’ve lived in Denmark and France for half my life and learned to type in Denmark. At no point have I ever wanted a non-US layout. 99.9% of everything I type is in english anyway and for the rare exceptions, the macOS handling of accents and international keys is fantastic IMO.

Emacs is an absolute power tool and I’m disappointed and frustrated with all the non-emacs editors, every time (VS Code no exception)

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