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Iska :emacs_thinking:​ :guix:

@m0xee @mangeurdenuage @Suiseiseki

Wrong!

But this is what you're saying :gyate_marisa_confused:​

You not playing this game won't fix corporate surveillance

It's not just refusal but advocacy against it and promotion of freedom.
Besides, just saying no makes a difference.

corporate surveillance shouldn't affect your decision.

Because surveillance shouldn't exist; yet it does and affects our daily lives.
Like the corpos getting richer, data getting leaked or one's plans being changed based on algorithm's decision.

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Iska :emacs_thinking:​ :guix: replied to Iska :emacs_thinking:​ :guix:

@m0xee @mangeurdenuage @Suiseiseki

Do you think I'm a weirdo?

(honestly, you're weirder for being such a reply guy - who barely posts himself.)

m0xEE replied to Iska :emacs_thinking:​ :guix:

@iska @mangeurdenuage @Suiseiseki Fedi is a bunch of weirdos! 🤣
Not that it's bad…
>being such a reply guy - who barely posts himself
That's not weird, that is idiosyncratic!

m0xEE replied to Iska :emacs_thinking:​ :guix:

@iska @mangeurdenuage @Suiseiseki
> Besides, just saying no makes a difference.
No, it doesn't. There is an extremely slim chance that you'll kill an elephant throwing corn seeds at it, but that is not what you usually do if you want to succeed. Issue can't be fixed on personal level, you have to do more than that. Make your own company that respects privacy and make your products successful, become an activist and get privacy law passed. Excluding yourself by not playing games won't do shit.

Iska :emacs_thinking:​ :guix: replied to m0xEE

@m0xee @mangeurdenuage @Suiseiseki

There is an extremely slim chance that you'll kill an elephant throwing corn seeds at it

Peer pressure is a big reason for proprietary software usage, you've mentioned it before.

Are you saying I should give up freedom and privacy for a bit of fun? That I should give up if I don't think at politicians' scale?

I won't kill microsoft by tomorrow, obviously; but if someone joins, there's going to be 2 seed-throwing people instead of one, and that could spread quickly.

@m0xee @mangeurdenuage @Suiseiseki

There is an extremely slim chance that you'll kill an elephant throwing corn seeds at it

Peer pressure is a big reason for proprietary software usage, you've mentioned it before.

Are you saying I should give up freedom and privacy for a bit of fun? That I should give up if I don't think at politicians' scale?

pyrate replied to Iska :emacs_thinking:​ :guix:
@iska @m0xee @mangeurdenuage @Suiseiseki An entity like Microsoft simply has too much insurance, they are literally able to buy their way out of problems.

This would include the userbase completely flipping to using linux on end user production environments. Microsoft has already laid its hooks into various linux projects.

I've been about the freedom and privacy thing, but its highly inconvenient for the average person - "who has nothing to hide" It's easy for them to ask the 'why' which concludes with 'idgaf.'

In a way, I do envy Russians - M$ has been forced to completely sever services which now forces all Russians to become acquainted with Linux.
@iska @m0xee @mangeurdenuage @Suiseiseki An entity like Microsoft simply has too much insurance, they are literally able to buy their way out of problems.

This would include the userbase completely flipping to using linux on end user production environments. Microsoft has already laid its hooks into various linux projects.
Iska :emacs_thinking:​ :guix: replied to pyrate

@pyrate @Suiseiseki @mangeurdenuage @m0xee

Many Russians just keep using win, one reason is that they didn't pay for it anyway;
Others will pay fortune for macs because "it's easier"

We need GNU/Linux advertisements.

MattZ replied to Iska :emacs_thinking:​ :guix:
Alright, first is to pick the demographic and target the ads according to their needs.

Make a presentation on it and join after that.
Iska :emacs_thinking:​ :guix: replied to MattZ

@colinsmatt11 @Suiseiseki @pyrate @mangeurdenuage @m0xee

First patriotism/anti-USA, then business and ease of use, then cover more about freedom, privacy and security.

Free software benefits everyone.

m0xEE replied to Iska :emacs_thinking:​ :guix:

@iska @colinsmatt11 @Suiseiseki @pyrate @mangeurdenuage Why don't we appeal to conspiracy theorists instead?
"Did you know that your tinfoil hat is no longer enough?!"
"Nanochips in the vaccine will dissolve if you use Pine Time! And it' only $10000"
It worked with Alex Jones' dick pills, why not? 🤣

翠星石 replied to m0xEE
@m0xee >"Did you know that your tinfoil hat is no longer enough?!"
Tinfoil nor Aluminum was never enough from the very start.
Testing has shown that Aluminum foil hats enhance government frequencies rather than reduce them.
To get the intended effect, you need a lead foil hat which is also grounded.
Iska :emacs_thinking:​ :guix: replied to 翠星石

@Suiseiseki @m0xee

I just don't go outside, government can't get me in my GNU/kOBSD-libre basement!

m0xEE replied to Iska :emacs_thinking:​ :guix:

@iska @mangeurdenuage @Suiseiseki
> there's going to be 2 seed-throwing people instead of one
No, there won't be. Because by excluding yourself you are just weirding people out. If someone is dissatisfied with Google and you tell him to port PmOS to his phone and self-host his mail he will tell you to go to hell. But if you show him/her AOSP or Fairphone and Protonmail it might work. These companies might become evil, but today they are better alternatives and require little effort to switch.

Iska :emacs_thinking:​ :guix: replied to m0xEE

@m0xee @mangeurdenuage @Suiseiseki

If someone is dissatisfied with Google and you tell him to port PmOS to his phone and self-host his mail he will tell you to go to hell.

That's a huge strawman, I've never said such thing.

m0xEE replied to Iska :emacs_thinking:​ :guix:

@iska @mangeurdenuage @Suiseiseki
I know, that is why I used "if". It was just an example of overdoing it instead of doing things gradually.

翠星石 replied to Iska :emacs_thinking:​ :guix:
@iska I can throw something far heftier than seeds at the enemies of freedom.
m0xEE replied to 翠星石

@Suiseiseki @iska
I'm afraid bell peppers won't cut it, better get one of those cool melon catapults. Even if you can't kill the elephant, you can feed it!

翠星石 replied to m0xEE
@m0xee Wait till you see the bell pepper stuffing.
CyberSpook🇷🇺 replied to Iska :emacs_thinking:​ :guix:
@iska
Why care about long-term consequences if you can get drunk and high on cocaine every day?
@m0xee @mangeurdenuage @Suiseiseki
mdn replied to m0xEE
@m0xee @iska @Suiseiseki
>Excluding yourself by not playing games won't do shit.
"If you give data to the data eating monster it won't feed it"
I wonder who's behind such posts :Thinker:
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