 I cannot understand why this even has to be take into thought Certain people are just not welcome because their "views" simply do not comply with the code of conduct Sorry but people like Trump would not get the chance to even post on my instance before we smash him off Don't offer hate spreaders or dictators a platform where they can spread even more hate It's that simple 37 comments
These "free" speech grifters always conveniently forget that free speech doesn't just apply to their hate speech and bigotry. It also includes the freedom to ignore others, the freedom to tell people to shut up, the freedom to shout them down, and the freedom to choose not to associate with someone for any reason In actuality, what they want is not freedom of expression but the "freedom" to compel others to listen to them and to force them take their ideas seriously  @nceladean @stux *nodds in agreement... They don't want "#FreezePeach" but #ConsequenceFreeSpeech because most people would react to them from shaking their head and leaving to getting smacked in the head and memed... Obviously the latter one is to discourage for obvious legal reasons... @nceladean @kkarhan @stux They want the freedom to use other people's private property to spew their hate speech, because they are essentially Communists who don't believe in private property unless it is their own private property. @badtux @nceladean @stux you wrote #facists wrong... - Because that's what they are!  @stux this is why it pisses me off that BSky has functionally done fuck all for decentralization. They’re footginning themselves by creating a single instance for moderating versus a federated and decentralized approach like Masto. Here, singal could join an instance full of cryptofash dorks like him and nobody would have to worry about it outside of maintainers blocking the instance @valhalla_dev @stux 100% - A truly federated service provides the freedom to associate. This allows groups to protect themselves while still those that won't play along can still go exercise speech elsewhere. A centralized service forces everyone to associate with the center, meaning the center always needs to make calls about what is allowed. Centralized services can't allow for full exercise of freedom. And yes, one could argue that in such a way you'll create a so called "echo chamber" But there is another way to look at it: "Keeping your home safe."  @stux An echo-chamber of people who don't abide bigotry is fine by me. Technology has made it easy for bigots to get their thoughts out. I know where to find them if I should want to learn about bigots' views. The value, in the modern world, is filtering them out because most of the time I'm doing other things and don't want bigotry injected into whatever I'm talking about. @stux Coincidentally, I'm sure, Bluesky has recently started considering using ads, after vowing never to use ads.  @stux  I'm personally on the side of not giving this type of content a platform to exist in, but the challenge with Bluesky seems to be that they're effectively centralized as a platform despite technically having the ability not to be... meaning the burden of moderation falls on a tiny team to please well over 20 million people. I reckon the pressure is becoming a problem. I know for sure these hateful zealots would immediately be banned and booted from my instance, that's for sure. Trans people he hates, pedophiles he defends, we've all seen how this song plays out. Singal's toxic, end of story. I think a better and more effective solution than banning is for everyone to block them and use scripts to block everyone that follows them For one thing, it denies them a much-sought chance to play "free speech martyr" and publicly masterbate over how "oppressed" they are. More importantly, as outrage pornographers, "attention" is their oxygen and nothing gets those types more worked up into a rage like the feeling that they're impotently shrieking into the void and no one is listening  @nceladean @stux That gives me an idea. Is it possible that an instance owner can just make every action that interacts with another user a no-op? It's the closest thing I can think of to a shadow ban on here The comment section under that article on tech crunch is something else. Makes me appreciate my instance and mods that I don’t have to deal with that level of transphobic drivel. This Singal critter has a lot of looney fans willing to bat for him, it seems, and they got no life.  @stux 🍿🍿🍿  The problem for Bluesky (BS) is it exposes the lie that they are a federated/protocol. Hate speechers are welcome to stand up their own nodes here and we're free to block them. That's the beauty of a protocol. The entire selling point of BS is that it's a protocol...and that is, as one learns, BS. @stux What’s the argument for Bluesky to not ban him if he violates the CoC? If ATProto is meaningfully federated that means he can join a separate relay and anyone who wants to interact with him can also move their PDS to the same relay. bsky still is accomplishing their goal of protocols not platforms in this scenario @stux there's a huge difference between getting rid of all dissenting opinions (echo chambering) and getting rid of extremists (catering to the majority).   @stux Yep, that's what comes from wearing a corporate yoke. Law suits and legal entanglements with activist prosecutors. BS's admins were shrewd to identify the incoming administrations machinations as being part of this shit-heal homophobe's reason for joining. It's a mess, for them now to clean up. |
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"#FreeSpeech" does not mean they have a right to get a free amplifier and bandwith and audience to start goebbeling out hatespeech...
https://xkcd.com/1357/