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James Brown

I'll probably make two displays now - finish off the autostereoscopic one, but then rearrange the geometry so that I can sweep through more than just a thickish-walled cylinder.

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A quirk of these LED matrix panels is that they simultaneously update two rows at once, separated by half the panel. So on a 64x64 panel, you update rows 0 & 32, 1 & 33, 2 & 34 etc.
However, if you want to sweep one around an axis, you ideally want to update the outer LEDs at a faster rate than the inner ones, and this layout prevents that.

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The Ring of Power from Harry Potter.

A precarious spinning display projecting a 3D image of the Death Star off of Star Wars.
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I’ve mentally moved on from this design, but I went ahead and built it to the point I can call it finished.

A 3D display sitting on a desk. It’s a cylinder 35cm tall - transparent plastic above a black base, which is ribbed and supported on little angled legs. Inside, there is the suggestion of a spinning mechanism, and a loose scattering of points of light making up a simple cube.
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The advantages of this approach - occlusion and view-dependent lighting - are undermined by the fact that too much of the colour depth is sacrificed to hitting the necessary framerate. The sort of simple scenes it can display could be displayed better by a swept volume.

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Most of the time we don't move our heads up and down very much, so the lack of vertical parallax seemed like it wouldn't be a big limitation. But one of the situations where we do move our heads quite a lot is when presented with a neat little 3D effect sitting on a desk.

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Anyway, the new display is going to be amazing.

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I even remembered to take some pictures before I put it all together.

The base of the display - a circular platform supporting a 12V power supply, mains connector and motor speed controller. Attached to the base is a spidery gantry holding a slip ring (from an automotive alternator), a big bearing mount, and a semicircular ridge used by a photointerruptor for synchronisation. Also visible is a motor held by a 3D printed mount.
The parts of the display shortly before final assembly - the base platform with power supply, the turntable on its chassis, the prism of led modules, and the protective fish tank and supporting cowl. Black 3D printed parts predominate.
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Scouring Aliexpress for LED panels for the new display, and it seems the higher resolution ones tend to be flexible. I spent a while investigating developable surfaces* to see how I could take advantage of this, but couldn't come up with a layout that offers any advantages over a flat square centred on the axis. Seems disappointingly pedestrian.

(*Twisting a sheet of paper in my hands)

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I'm arranging it as two rectangular panels arranged with their bottom edges touching on the axis, which lets me update columns at the same radius simultaneously. The outer columns need to be updated more frequently than the inner columns, and one of the nice things about these LED panels is that you choose your own update strategy - you're not stuck with scanning a whole frame each time.

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If the lines were completely independent, you could evenly scan a sector with half the number of line updates compared to updating the whole frame. As it is, each line has to be updated in parallel with one that's half a panel further down, so it ends up taking 3/4 of the line updates instead (because some updates have to update the outer line while scanning out black to the inner line).

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Display 1 currently serving as convenient rotating testbed.

The spinning display disassembled down to its turntable. It’s now just a black disc supporting a Pi, a hub75 interface, and a poorly planned collection of wires and RC battery eliminators.
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The thing about voxels is that even when they’re not working, they look cool.

A 3D display device sitting on an untidy desk in a comfortable study. There’s a blur suggesting spinning equipment, and a formless scattering of coloured points hangs in the air.
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New display, new panels. I'm driving these ones using DPI on a Raspberry Pi, which is a handy way of wiggling 24 GPIO lines with precise timing and no CPU involvement.

128x128 LED panel on a 3D printed stand on a desk, displaying a 1 bit per channel image that looks a little like Rick Astley.
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The results I was getting with the new display were so much better than the original that I went back for another pass at it. Turns out there were a couple of stupid bugs limiting the refresh rate. The colour depth is now vastly improved.

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This is still using software bit banging. I'm going to switch it to using DPI, but the current interface board wasn't designed with that in mind, and the GPIO mapping doesn't put all 3 displays on valid DPI pins.

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If you squizz your eyes at this, you can see the 3D.

If you have difficulty converging it, it helps to make the image really small and gradually enlarge it once your eyes have locked on.

A stereoscopic pair of images of a rotating stereoscopic display. Two views, side by side, of the same object from slightly different viewpoints.

A device sits on a messy worktop. Black 3D printed plastic supports a transparent cylinder. Inside floats a gaudily coloured dinosaur head, made up of smears of light.
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I had the opportunity to give some live demos of this thing recently. It went over well, but the noise was a real killer.
I've reworked it to use a belt drive instead of the horrible 3D printed gear - before, it screamed; now it whirrs.

A view of the underside of the rotating platform from my 3D display, showing a GT2 timing belt.
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The new platform now has enough bits to display an image while spinning.

Test card F spinning on its axis; a mess of radial blur
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I massively overestimated how much lead would be needed to counterbalance the small amount of slightly off-axis electronics.

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Slowly turning up the dial at arm’s length.

Long exposure shot of the latest spinning contraption; a black turntable on blue legs, with a glowing pixelly wireframe hologram of the Apollo LEM floating above it.
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It would be convenient to address the voxel data as a stack of horizontal slices, because that's how it's exported from lots of existing tools. I have to rotate it 90 degrees though, because scanning out is faster if each column's data can be addressed as consecutive bytes.
It's a small change, but there's a 6.5x difference in speed between the two orientations, which directly translates into voxel density in the final output.

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I really need to get a hobby where missing my framerate target doesn't make me physically nauseous.

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I am having so much fun with this thing.

The spinning voxel display again. This time it’s showing a doom monster facing off against the green doom guy. They’re just floating above a turntable. It’s like magic.
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I've implemented parts of a content pipeline for rendering a scene on the PC and streaming it to this display, but writing video streaming code is so much less fun than playing with voxels that it may take a while to finish.
Here, I've stored the animation uncompressed on the display itself, and am updating it as fast as the Pi's SD card can handle. (Not very fast.)

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My target for this display is 600 rpm - lower than that and it's too flickery; higher than that and I can't refresh fast enough to get 400 voxels around the circumference without dropping to 1 bpc. I'm nudging 400 rpm here, and it's still pretty unfilmable and absolutely terrifying to be close to. I have to decide whether the overall approach is worthwhile enough to start spending money on aluminium and polycarbonate.

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Slightly higher rpm, slightly longer shutter.

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The other problem I have is that to sell the 3D effect I need to move the camera around a lot, so I'm going to have to put some effort into building a studio backdrop.

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Incidentally, those models are from Cheello's voxel Doom: moddb.com/mods/doom-voxel-proj - It's a lovely mod, and makes Doom feel more like my memories of playing it than the real thing does.

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I had a panel left over, and I thought I should have another stab at an oscillating display. I wanted to give it an undulating motion and came up with what seemed like a nice linkage, but the end result looks like it was designed by Trevithick.

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It's a nice fluid motion on the panel, but overall it doesn't bring me joy.

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Guess I’m doing a cone next.

Two homebrew 3D displays - one cylindrical, one spherical.
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There must be at least 6D here.

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I rewired the back of the panel to tidy up all the loose flappy cables. It now manages 600 rpm, which is not too flickery.

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I mean, you should have seen it before.

Shot through the dome of the back of the voxel device. Two hub75 panels, a Pi, and an interface board all connected by quite a bit of wiring which isn’t exactly neat, but is at least firmly cable tied in place.
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In the continuing quest for higher rpm, I've moved the controller down below the screen and across the axis of rotation. It's a lot harder to get at if I need to rewire anything, but it does improve the balance.

A shot of the back of the voxel display. There's a gap where a Raspberry Pi used to be, and the wiring now runs down through a hole in the turntable, where a bit of green PCB peeks out.
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It feels as though I'm endlessly rebuilding it, for diminishing improvements. But in the most recent rebuild I finally solved a mystery that has been bugging me. When the display had been running for a while, it would quite abruptly lose balance and start vibrating. After the last occurrence, it was never quite the same. On stripping it down I found this.

A 3D printed component consisting of a flat disk with a pillar sticking up from it. The pillar looks as though it should be perpendicular to the plate (as it should), but it very visibly isn't.
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That's the mount for the slip ring. A cylinder carrying a couple of copper bands fits over the pillar, and an M4 bolt goes own the middle to hold it all together. It has very clearly become bent, and without any signs of cracking. Presumably, as it spins, it heats up enough to soften the PLA, and the spring loaded brushes push it out of alignment.

I've reprinted it in ABS; going to see how well that lasts.

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I continue to fail to shoot footage of it that does it justice.

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This feels like a good match of style and content.

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I’m now suspicious of all the PLA parts. The little pit with the Pi in it is getting very warm.

Thermal image of the voxel display - cool blue for the dome and supporting fins, warm orange below (33 C but the colour scheme makes it look as though it’s glowing hot)
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kind of feels like it needs monsters?

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I do like an ample window and natural light, but it makes it hard to see the leds. Hence this pirate astronaut.

The volumetric display from upthread. It’s in front of an overexposed window, and has a tee shirt stretched over its dome like a scurvy headscarf on a space helmet. Kind of.
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Doom running at a larger scale. Easier to make out what's going on, harder to see what's shooting at you.
youtu.be/bRe1OSkeiQg

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This display works by spinning a matrix display rapidly about a vertical axis, lighting up each LED as it passes through part of a 3D image. The way you update the displays has a big impact on the quality of the image.
In this gif, each dot represents a column of LEDs - we're looking at the device from above. Here the panel is treated like a 2D display which just happens to be moving. Each scan line is repeatedly visited in turn, sweeping out a set of slices where the image can be displayed.

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