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mcc

Just attempted to use "Google Lens" to parse a QR code. It did a web search for similar images and presented me with a list of images containing QR codes. Horrible future

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NotHelpfulUntilIAm🥤 🌛 🗄️

@mcc Google ecstacy might solve the problem, but be aware it could be cancelled at any moment.

Sylvhem

@mcc I’m feeling so tired just reading this tweet…

Owen Nelson

@mcc it's like how for a while, after using the voice assistant it would ask me how satisfied I was, "say a number from one to five" but if I say 5 it then searched Google Maps for "5 near me"

NikT

@onelson @mcc I'm fond of "Remind me to [do thing] tomorrow at 9am" "OK, I'll remind you to '[do thing] tomorrow at 9am'. When do you want to be reminded?"

Luna Lactea

@onelson @mcc It won't even let me use that anymore. It just disappeared & got replaced with the regular Google Search one day. Google Lens is still there though.

Owen Nelson

@jackemled @mcc I had the same experience but later learned I could summon the assistant via a long press of the power button

Luna Lactea

@onelson @mcc My Google Pixel makes the power menu show up for that now. It used to show the Google Assistant menu though. Google can't stop changing shit randomly & A/B testing for no reason. It doesn't affect me much since I don't use Google Assistant at all after they made it near useless, but it's still annoying for some menus to be inconsistent.

David

@jackemled @onelson @mcc
I added the Assistant app to my home screen so I can actually use it.

I thought making Assistant harder to use was a play to get people using Gemini, but turning that on just replaces Assistant and also isn't accessible via search. They've long had a problem with "I don't know" Assistant answers, but instead of falling back to search (like on Hub Max) they relegated Assistant.

In the end they forced AI Snippets enabled for everyone, so that was the long term strategy?

@jackemled @onelson @mcc
I added the Assistant app to my home screen so I can actually use it.

I thought making Assistant harder to use was a play to get people using Gemini, but turning that on just replaces Assistant and also isn't accessible via search. They've long had a problem with "I don't know" Assistant answers, but instead of falling back to search (like on Hub Max) they relegated Assistant.

TheirStar 🏳️‍⚧️

@mcc you will never solve the milk bath mystery like this

Shrimped Amber

@mcc I’m curious now what those other QR codes link to. Of course I’m not scanning random shit on the internet

Shrimpney

@mcc Hey! We've spotted that you're complaining about AI output. Would you like to see more?

Ian K Tindale

@shrimpney @mcc people who complained about this also complained about…

Semitones

@mcc I am getting Déjà Vu reading this post... Is it the first time you've said this?

Kyle

@mcc the other day I scanned a product that put it's barcode next to a QR code. My cash register successfully displayed the URL as if it was a price and then crashed

r҉ustic cy͠be̸rpu̵nk🤠🤖

@kyle_pegasus @mcc I miss the days when viruses were intentional

And just opened my CD tray

Sharkgirl Transpiring

@kyle_pegasus @mcc this is…why would it even have a QR code reader in it?! I just…but…ughhhughhugh

Versis🐉💽

@kyle_pegasus @mcc awesome. when at tesco i have to cover the qrs with my finger to stop the machines being whiny about wrong inputs.

Wade McGillis

@kyle_pegasus @mcc starting in 2027 barcodes will be shifting from 1 dimensional line based ones to QR codes in a URL format. this change will allow consumers to get more information about the product, and will allow manufacturers to include metadata such as batch numbers and expiration dates to allow for easier handling of product recalls or keeping products within code.

gs1us.org/industries-and-insig

Wade McGillis

@kyle_pegasus @mcc that was not an AI response. i have been the only one really into food safety at any job i've had. at my last job i was asking them for years to let me handle date coding in just one department, when they finally relented i found over 100lbs of expired candy out for sale, some of which expired over two years beforehand. in another department, they were selling "fresh pork" that was almost 40 days out of code.

Raven667

@kyle_pegasus @mcc I saw part of a Defcon presentation where some joker put the EICAR antivirus test string in a QR code and then presented it to all sorts of things which are capable of scanning it, hilarity ensuing as some backend system with AV freaks out and tries quarantining functional parts of the system.

Sounds like that register system needs a bit more input sanitization, lol.

Jérôme Carretero

@mcc

For 1000 joule an LLM can reliably do a 2-digit addition... I'm sure given Moore's law they'll eventually come up with LLMs that can natively parse QR codes and use the resulting free energy to do something even better for humanity.

Train YIMBY 🚂

@mcc why would you google a QR code when you can just use the QR code

🄿 🅷 🄸 🅻

@mcc @NBAnthony2k is it? Thought it was more of a visual search engine. Crap anyway if it doesn’t just scan it and go to the URL.

mcc

@philheppenstall @NBAnthony2k Google has been gradually folding other features of the photo/camera app into Lens. It's their normal annoying branding thing. Not enough people are using [new feature] so we will rebrand [old feature] as [new feature]. For example the "lens" button is how you now translate within an image. I don't know how you're supposed to access QR codes now. Download a new app because Google doesn't want to make ones that work…?

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@mcc @NBAnthony2k sounds nuts. Typical over-engineered, under-thought stuff that tech companies come up with.

LiquidParasyte

@mcc @philheppenstall @NBAnthony2k ugh, that sounds hellish. If they actually discontinued the pixel camera app in favor of lens I may just finally flash a custom rom

nul42

@mcc As someone who hasn't used Google in years I find it so odd every time I'm reminded that Google is still a thing.

Marcel 🛡 ♻ ✨

@mcc Just to remind everyone that almost everything labeled AI is in reality totally stupid. Even the marketing guy who put the label on has no idea what it represents. #AIisNOTintelligent

Paul von Drayventhal

@mcc Yeah I had this too a few days ago because I tried to test a QR code on the business card for a customer.
What a dumb app.

trusty falxter 🧠

@mcc
Plot twist: QR-Code contains an URL pointing to a google search for similar images of a QR code.

Raph J

@flxtr @mcc Can you encode a PNG of a QR code inside that same QR code ?

trusty falxter 🧠

@RaphJ
Reverse image search can be based on an image URL. So theoretically ...
But I'm failing to create such a link right now, because everytime I'm reverse searching the same QR code image URL, something different happens. Sometimes I land on a web version of lens, which sometimes only shows QR-Code content and sometimes makes an additional similarity search, and sometimes I land on classic image search, which sometimes finds nothing and sometimes finds other QR codes. 🤪

trusty falxter 🧠

@RaphJ
But that was not your question.* 🙈 Now I get it. Yeah, that's an interesting question. Self containing QR code. 🤔

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*) I'm a bit ill at the moment, which is affecting my concentration.

Raph J

@flxtr It would be fun to explore ...

Sky Leite

@RaphJ I think you just invented the Qrine (from Quine)

Ben Stokman

@mcc did you this because 99% of QR code readers don't let you choose from an image for some reason?

mcc

@benjistokman I did it because I used to use QR code reader apps and one of them turned out to be malware, and so everyone's like "why don't you just use your phone's camera app?" so now I'm doing that

🌈 Kerblambuli 🦄

@mcc have you been offered shops where you can buy more QR codes? 🤡

bogdanbiv

@mcc I'm more concerned with malware QR codes - click this link for goodies and you get owned by some "nose candy script kid" that encrypts your phone and then computer for a hefty ransom -- which should never be paid. Just imagine someone sticks a new QR code at a cafe and then performs a MITM. It's transparent for the cafe, for cafe customers. It would be just worse than the old ATM & POS card copiers. All our lifes, identity & security relies on a secure phone. It's a nightmare in waiting 😒

bitsavers.org

@bogdanbiv @mcc

There are proof of concept examples of people gluing their own QR codes on signage in public places. Example isn't jumping out at me right now though.

caravantravellers 🌈

@mcc

Too bad if using a totally inappropriate tool for something it won't work properly..🙄🤯

mcc

@caravantraveller I am on an Android phone. There is a QR code in a photo I took on my phone. If I open the photo in my built in photos app, there is a "lens" button. How else am I supposed to ask for a QR code to be parsed?

Oskar Murand

@mcc Exit/return early is an often underused pattern in my opinion in programming.

mcc

@oskar "AI" is a kind of a slippery poorly defined thing but one way of looking at it is software programs simply removing that pattern

David

@mcc
Agree the failure of these products to be consistent is a pain.

I've found the QR code scanner you can add to the Android quick access menu (pull down at top) is actually reliable and fast since it knows what it's looking for.

Single purpose driven products actually work; who'd a thought?!

Screenshot of editing quick access menu with QR code scanner highlighted.
Raven667

@mcc If Chrome doesn't have a QR code reader a part of the address bar, it should, as that is a nice feature of Firefox on mobile, just read the QR, don't try and guess what i wanted.

lp0 on fire :unverified:

@mcc, I have “Barcode Scanner+ Simple” installed for those things. No Artificial Incontinence to get in the way.

Simon Waldman

@mcc I've stopped using Lens for QR codes for exactly this reason. Of course this is what's integrated in google phones....

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