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Elena Rossini ⁂

What has been on my mind today: the high costs of digital sovereignty and privacy.

I quit #Substack and pay 30€ a month for a Creator plan on #Ghost (approx. 360 Euros a year).

I quit Dropbox in favor of #Proton Unlimited (drive but also mail, calendar. VPN). 119 Euros/year.

I nuked my Google Analytics accounts in favor of #Plausible (90 Euros/year).

I'm HAPPY to pay for these services & yet I'm highly aware of my privilege.

#BigTech won't fade in popularity anytime soon bc it's free 😩

23 comments
Kristian
@_elena Exactly. Not even talking about that other option to "just click yourself a server somewhere and run infrastructure on your own" which will amount to similar bills if done at a comparable level and/or take much more time one needs to be able to have at hand. It's a nasty problem that seems hard to fix on an individual level as it always requires being privileged in this way or the other - like, also, buying organic food or fair-trade clothes. It's disheartening once you dig deeper. 😟
Craig Morgan

@_elena interesting, if its not a "professional" endeavour then I fail to see why someone would select SubStack/Ghost over a more useful option like micro.blog, which would give the option of blog/microblog/podcast/fediverse integration and a much lower monthly cost … likewise for such a user I think analytics is an unnecessary cul-de-sac, but there are free solutions if you require …

Elena Rossini ⁂

@craigmorgan I am happy to pay Ghost for its newsletter functionality. Sadly no self-hosting plan gives free newsletter capabilities. And Ghost is fast, beautiful and reliable.

I self-host and federated 3 Wordpress sites and I love the advanced styling options of Wordpress. I have been designing / developing WP sites for over 15 years.

Manton's micro.blog is superb but I have different needs / requirements

bovaz

@_elena sadly the big rent-seekers of the web can outspend everyone else. I don't see infrastructure being treated as such by regulators in the near future, to make it accessible to people without fairly sized capital investments.

Elena Rossini ⁂

@bovaz yeah. Reading "Privacy is Power" has been really eye-opening. There will be no regulation anytime soon because governments reap enormous benefits from surveillance capitalism (powered by Big Tech)

Sergio F. Lima
@_elena [quote#BigTech won't fade in popularity anytime soon bc it's free 😩[/quote]
Well, Bigtech itsn't free! You only don't pay with fiduciary money, but with your data! 😪
Nicolas Dufour

@_elena Yep, it goes fast, unless you self-host (but more complex too).

I ddn't know about Plausible! That looks like a great solution for analytics. Thanks for the tip :)

Kristian
@nrdufour Adding to that, unsure if it passed by here: tinylytics.app/ also might be interesting to look into, for privacy-preserving, lightweight analytics. It's a bit cheaper than plausible but also offers less features, still might be an alternative to keep in mind then and now. 🙂
@_elena
yuhasz01

@_elena You may want to consider who you give your funds to and their ownership. Volunteer, community driven, not-for-profit organizations abound with free utilities as well: one can donate to support them but not required to use.

Elena Rossini ⁂

@jandi I wasn't familiar with it. Two people mentioned @Framasoft in replies, so looking into it now. Thank you!

Frost, Wolffucker 🐺:therian:

@_elena And selfhosting is way cheaper than all of that... but it not only still costs a bit of money, it's ALSO a brand new hobby not everyone needs.

Luke

@_elena Yeah, I see few people recognize the financial barrier to privacy. The common response to this is "it's not free because you're paying with data/being advertised to/etc."

I think that misses the nuance that groceries can't be paid for with data. People will always choose to eat and lose privacy, as opposed to pay for privacy and starve.

Elena Rossini ⁂

@lgre excellent point. BTW if you haven't read it already, you would love the book "Privacy is Power" by Carissa Véliz

Tommi 🤯

@_elena You could self-host all of this just as easily using @yunohost and a VPS for 15 €/month MAX, or, even better, just with a RaspberryPi plugged in your modem.

Email is the only thing that is a nightmare self-hosted, to be fair.

verita84
Don't waste money on a shitty Pi. Buy refurb x86 on the cheap from Amazon/Ebay
Elena ``of Valhalla''

@tommi @yunohost @_elena as a self-hoster, that requires skills / knowledge, even with things like yunohost, and time¹, and having either is just another form of privilege

I'm thankful to have those, and love self-hosting the services I do self-host (or rather community-host: I share the hosting tasks with some friends, and provide services for family members who would never be able to self-host on their own, but having access to those friends is yet another form of privilege)

¹ or more time, to be able to gain those skills and knowledge

@tommi @yunohost @_elena as a self-hoster, that requires skills / knowledge, even with things like yunohost, and time¹, and having either is just another form of privilege

I'm thankful to have those, and love self-hosting the services I do self-host (or rather community-host: I share the hosting tasks with some friends, and provide services for family members who would never be able to self-host on their own, but having access to those friends is yet another form of privilege)

Elena Rossini ⁂

@tommi @yunohost I should have added that I'm using Ghost for its elegant and solid newsletter capabilities. I have 3 self-hosted, federated Wordpress sites that I adore.

Happy to pay Proton for its VPN, mail and calendar. And Plausible for analytics... no going around that

𝙹𝚊𝚗𝚒𝚔 :linux: :ansible: :bash:

@_elena Appreciate this post. Its always difficult to explain that nothing is for free and that people pay with their data. And that it is in most cases a bad deal.

It is time time to take the lead and pay for soveregnity.

Nina Cried Power

@_elena
People think it is free but if they had to agree separately to every party that was funding their access they would rarely get 10% down before giving up.

Elena Rossini ⁂

@Nina_cried wow. Really eye-opening. I'm reading "Privacy is Power" right now and I'm super fired up about these issues. We need more awareness

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