Gregory's Server@burnoutqueen @IndyHermit @FisherPeter
The USSR wasn't communist. It was a socialist country that was aspiring towards communism.
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@burnoutqueen @IndyHermit @FisherPeter I understand the USSR the way it was, and it was socialist. Socialism is the collective ownership of the means of production, distribution, and exchange either directly or through the state, and the USSR had collective ownership of those things through the state, making them socialist. There are many different versions of socialism. Just because the USSR didn't adhere to your specific preferred version of socialism doesn't make it not socialist.  @Radical_EgoCom @IndyHermit @FisherPeter Is America even a little socialist for owning the public libraries and parks? @burnoutqueen @IndyHermit @FisherPeter Parks and libraries aren't means of production, so no. |
@Radical_EgoCom @IndyHermit @FisherPeter
I dispute this.
The USSR should be understood the way it was, not the way it claimed to be. Isn't that the spirit of historical materialism anyways?
Given the historical development of the USSR, it would be most accurate to say it was distinct from socialism, state capitalism, and communism. It was a hierarchical, state society where the working class had essentially no power over the economic process. The process of accumulation in the USSR was significantly different from both socialism and capitalism.
The USSR was the result of a Blanquist coup by a developmentalist and fierce clique of highly dedicated revolutionaries, and from the start was a perversion of the democratic vision of proletarian rule envisioned by Marx and Engels.
@Radical_EgoCom @IndyHermit @FisherPeter
I dispute this.
The USSR should be understood the way it was, not the way it claimed to be. Isn't that the spirit of historical materialism anyways?
Given the historical development of the USSR, it would be most accurate to say it was distinct from socialism, state capitalism, and communism. It was a hierarchical, state society where the working class had essentially no power over the economic process. The process of accumulation in the USSR was significantly...