@neauoire Ah, okay. I thought you came up with that one off the dome since there was no quotations.
I would add that the farther away from ecological equilibrium an entity goes the more energy it takes to maintain.
Human empires are deeply unbalanced organizations.
@dualhammers azolla event type stuff. The quote is usually associated with the Senneca curve that looks like: https://wiki.xxiivv.com/site/collapse.html