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Joel Carnat โ™‘ ๐Ÿ˜

@stefano you canโ€™t prevent children to expect being taken by the hand without doing their homework. I have a dedicated section on the About page about this. When people ask me about how to install the OS pointing to an article about synchronization between OpenLDAP and NIS, I donโ€™t even reply.

Iโ€™m not nice enough, but donโ€™t ask a professional triathlon athlete how they train if you donโ€™t even know how to tie your laces.

4 December at 10:40 | Wall-to-wall | Open on piou.foolbazar.eu
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Stefano Marinelli

@joel Exactly. Your approach is an example, for me, as in your articles I can find exactly the information I need to solve a specific problem. That's my approach, too.
It's not a "From zero to hero in 10 steps".

4 December at 11:01 | Open on mastodon.bsd.cafe
Tionisla

@stefano @joel

I totally agree with you both. People seem to expect a recipe.. But forget that even there it's expected to how to use scales and volume measurements.

tl;dr; some experiences from my real job:

Hmmh, children usually have more intrinsic motivation to explore and learn new things compared to adults and are far more resilient in case of obstacles. (Just think about the whole process of learning to walk.)

Yeah, the toddlers, throwing on the floor having a tantrum at the supermarket, that's different. That's more an indication of developing a self-personality and voicing needs and feelings.

Imo it's a more of a typical adolescent/ early adulthood behaviour to have a low frustration tolerence if things don't work like they expect or desire them (aka that the whole world doesn't revolve around them).

@stefano @joel

I totally agree with you both. People seem to expect a recipe.. But forget that even there it's expected to how to use scales and volume measurements.

tl;dr; some experiences from my real job:

Hmmh, children usually have more intrinsic motivation to explore and learn new things compared to adults and are far more resilient in case of obstacles. (Just think about the whole process of learning to walk.)

4 December at 11:09 | Open on mastodon.bsd.cafe
Stefano Marinelli

@Tionisla @joel Interesting comparison, and quite appropriate. Thank you for sharing it!

4 December at 11:10 | Open on mastodon.bsd.cafe
Joel Carnat โ™‘ ๐Ÿ˜

@Tionisla yeah, not all children are even the same regarding independence and adventure. I thought of those who wonโ€™t do anything and wait for the parents to give them everything. Which is probably more of a parental problem than a child oneโ€ฆ :)

@stefano

4 December at 11:14 | Open on piou.foolbazar.eu
Tionisla

@joel @stefano it is... my colleagues and me have a "saying": "a child that was spoiled" is (caught) in passive tense with no opportunity to be in active tense.

The real professional term is "learned helplessness" by eg. soc. overparenting like in lawnmower or helicopter parents...

FYI: psychologytoday.com/us/blog/be

4 December at 11:35 | Open on mastodon.bsd.cafe
Joel Carnat โ™‘ ๐Ÿ˜

@stefano thanks. I like "the one problem / one solution" way. With an optional "but there are other ways" depending on external conditions.

4 December at 11:16 | Open on piou.foolbazar.eu
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