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If everyone is responsible, no one will be responsible.

You can talk about collective responsibility of all people in some country. You can say that those who launched missiles killing civilians and those who who doesn't go to the protest to stop the war are literally the same.

But the truth is that these words help the actual murderers. Collective responsibility will mean that in case of something they will less likely get punished. We can't jail the whole country. But we can and should punish the actual villains.

So if you insist on responsibility for everyone, you will insist on less responsibility for those who should actually be accountable for real crimes.

Don't talk about collective responsibility. Talk about responsibility for specific people.
26 November at 21:07 | Open on udongein.xyz
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Шуро

The worst thing in that is "rally around the flag" effect.

If everyone is equally responsible (which usually translates into "equally fucked") then quite a lot start actively support the cause they previously disliked and/or sabotaged. And this goes further than just posts on the Internet or taxes.

26 November at 21:18 | Open on friends.deko.cloud
Тр3тий Сергеевич

@yura There are too much "what abouts" in terms of weighing the accountability (i.e. the ability to answer for your actions at some extent, not your implied duty to do something, like in case of responsibility).

We know the high command and COs can be held accountable for any decisions and orders that led to death and destruction. We know the soldiers could be somewhat held accountable for carrying out one of those orders.

But what about those volunteers who provide the army with equipment and munitions? How much exactly are they accounted for?

What about those priests who interpret war crimes as God's will?

What about those newsmakers broadcasting live about the labors of "our boys"?

Hell, what about those taxpayers? We know their taxes flow directly into the war funds. Does that make them all complicit in war crimes?

@yura There are too much "what abouts" in terms of weighing the accountability (i.e. the ability to answer for your actions at some extent, not your implied duty to do something, like in case of responsibility).

We know the high command and COs can be held accountable for any decisions and orders that led to death and destruction. We know the soldiers could be somewhat held accountable for carrying out one of those orders.

27 November at 18:36 | Open on mastodon.ml
Тр3тий Сергеевич

@yura I could go on and on, but the thing is that you don't have to dig that deep to apply some degree of accountability to pretty much everyone. There's too much laundry to do, too much to sort out even for courts and tribunals. And the victims would demand justice and accountability and the guarantee of NEVER AGAIN right this f*cking instant.

So, the society came up with nothing better than a presumption of guilt (until proven otherwise).

27 November at 18:36 | Open on mastodon.ml
Galactic Jew 🇮🇱

@th3rdsergeevich @yura

Let’s stop playing with terms like “war crimes” and “genocide,” as doing so devalues their true meaning.

While taxpayers do share responsibility for enabling military aggression, they are not directly subject to legal prosecution. Instead, they face consequences in other ways.

27 November at 19:10 | Open on t51b.org
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