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DB πŸ‡΅πŸ‡Έ 🌎🌏🌍

I'll be reposting this regularly because we all need to feel its message deep in our bones:

Apartheid was "Legal"

Slavery was "Legal"

Colonialism was "Legal"

LEGALITY IS A CONSTRUCT

of the Powerful

not of Justice

34 comments
aburtch

@dbattistella @appassionato And currently blatant corruption is legal. Corporations can spend unlimited amounts of money on political candidates and then receive legislative favors in return.

DB πŸ‡΅πŸ‡Έ 🌎🌏🌍

@aburtch @appassionato Yes, blatant corruption is the sign of a crumbling democracy, and very possibly, of a declining empire.

Lynn D

@dbattistella people also seen to forget that everything that Hitler and Stalin did was legal.

IgnorePriorInstructions

@dbattistella yep. And I feel like you could have an equally poignant poster replacing "legal" with "Christian".

Johan Pelck Olsen

@mok0 @dbattistella I’m not sure he would. He doesn’t claim that he broke the law but that’s ok because he did it for moral reasons. His claims are more along the lines of β€œI never did that and even if I did, the law doesn’t apply to me”

sheislaurence

@mok0 @dbattistella @jpkolsen 100% agree with Morten, that kind of messaging is a double-edged sword, particularly at a time when the leader of so-called free-world is looking at dismantling the #judiciary. There is much MUCH more to be lost by undermining the #ruleoflaw or the trust therein. If you live in the USA, you will experience this soon enough.

Morten Kjeldgaard

@sheislaurence @dbattistella @jpkolsen Actually it's what Trump has been working systematically on during the last four years. First of all, diminishing all the judges in his own court cases, then calling the Jan 6. insurrectionists "hostages". His aim is to break down the rule of law, and it's authoritarian dictator 101.

finserra πŸ™Œ

@dbattistella And how do you suggest we determine what is justice, and how to acheive and enforce it, in the absence of law?

finserra πŸ™Œ

@dbattistella Be as honest as you like, but when naive, open-ended, ill-defined propositions, like that above, are posed, these are the questions that must be asked? I spent forty years practicing law in General Counsel offices of cabinet agencies of the United States (and against them). Without answers to those questions, you cannot even begin to work on a better state of affairs, and whatever alternative you propose without asking them will be a road to misery that make the current state of affairs look like a cakewalk. Don't waste your time yelling revolution in the shower.

@dbattistella Be as honest as you like, but when naive, open-ended, ill-defined propositions, like that above, are posed, these are the questions that must be asked? I spent forty years practicing law in General Counsel offices of cabinet agencies of the United States (and against them). Without answers to those questions, you cannot even begin to work on a better state of affairs, and whatever alternative you propose without asking them will be a road to misery that make the current state of affairs...

RandomStroll

@dbattistella

There used to be a bumper sticker β€œLegalize Freedom β€œ

RiKuSama

@dbattistella Some strong words right here! Yes, everything is controlled by the strong. Honestly, I really don't have much hope for the future since with all the achievements we had through out the years, we still have apartheid and slavery.

INTENTIONALLY blank

@dbattistella
Legal != Good
Legal != Justice*
Legal != Fair

Money + (Power/Influence) = Justice

Money + (Power/Influence) != Democracy

πŸ˜‘

Koen Hufkens, PhD

@dbattistella I always say if you want to know the difference between what is legal and what is ethical, go talk to an accountant.

Andy Mouse

@koen_hufkens

Accountant? Did you just misspel "anarchist"? 😁

@dbattistella

Koen Hufkens, PhD

@dbattistella In finance (business) many things are legal which are not ethical. Take "tax optimization" where large companies or persons deflate their income to not pay "income" tax. This is only the tip of the iceberg.

Estarriol, Cat owned Dragon

@dbattistella The HOLOCAUST was legal.

Legal does not mean ethical or moral, never has.

Irenes (many)

@dbattistella oh that is some nice phrasing that we hadn't heard in past expressions of this sentiment. thanks for that.

S. Moss the Deer Witch

@dbattistella YES! This was the biggest thing I learned from supporting my partner thru law school, bar prep, & job in criminal defense:

Legal β‰  Ethical

DB πŸ‡΅πŸ‡Έ 🌎🌏🌍

@moss Yes, and addressing inequality in our society, and there's no other way around it, dismantling capitalism, is the surest way to get our laws to reflect our ethics.

VulcanTourist

@dbattistella

The felony murder rule is legal... at least in the United States. Most everywhere else it's deemed unethical.

This is why we need jury nullification, folks, and why corrupt judges use every tactic to try to prevent it.

Richard W. Woodley NO THREADS πŸ‡¨πŸ‡¦πŸŒΉπŸš΄β€β™‚οΈπŸ“· πŸ—ΊοΈ

@dbattistella

When people justify their or someone they support's actions by saying it was legal rather than it was right then you know it was wrong.

Henri Verymetaldev

@dbattistella So the utter destruction of Gaza and the eradication of the Hxmas-top were illegal ...

Maybe should've heeded the effect 7 oktober had on Israelis and the ever ongoing abductions and rocket attacks.

It's not about constructs, it's about BLOODY REVENGE. This is not a semantic battle, neither the Western pro-Palestinians nor the late Hxmas-top give a fck about Palestinians, just want to martyr them to serve their own religious hateful antisemitic agenda.

It's a disgrace.

Nantucket E-Books

@dbattistella It's important to remember these concepts are man-made, and as such, they can be man-unmade.

Angelino Desmet.

@dbattistella Source and original image: β€œLegality is not a construct of justice.” by Hannah MΓΌller-Hillebrand; instagram.com/p/CZ3581PsJDg/

Dsens

@dbattistella

de toute faΓ§on mΓͺme quand c'est illΓ©gal, Γ§a continue quand mΓͺme. L'institution judiciaire dΓ©pend de biais socio-culturels. Ou de la gΓ©opolitique.

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