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David D. Levine

@Dani Saying "you must do this thing, but you have to have started some years ago" is never useful. It's redundant to those who already have done it and worthless to those who haven't.

8 November at 4:31 | Wall-to-wall | Open on wandering.shop
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Wyatt H Knott

@daviddlevine @Dani It's not at all worthless to those who haven't in this case, the point is don't start now if you don't want to get dead because you can't get to where you need to be to stay alive in the time you have left.

The most important thing is, if you bring a gun to the fight, the fight will be about the gun. Are you prepared to struggle for possession of a firearm? Doubt it.

8 November at 5:10 | Open on mastodon.social
Dani Tseng

@daviddlevine it's extremely useful; it establishes a reality check on what investment is necessary to be competent to with a tool in order to accomplish some goal.

If someone isn't capable of coming to terms with that idea, I'd prefer they not do the thing.

8 November at 5:10 | Open on mastodon.sandwich.net
David D. Levine

@Dani Okay, I see now what you were trying to say. It's a valid and very important point, but I'm afraid the words in your initial post didn't convey that message well.

8 November at 11:50 | Open on wandering.shop
Mx Verda

@daviddlevine @Dani
Reasonable criticism.
How would you best summarise it to a scared, tired person with caring responsibilities, if you feel up to it?

9 November at 22:26 | Open on lgbtqia.space
Dani Tseng replied to Mx

@MxVerda
The advice I'm giving to my family and friends who are trying to protect themselves is to learn to keep awareness of your surroundings, pepper spray (there's practice canisters with water) and if practical, cardio.

That will get one out of a lot of bad situations and there's not many where also having a pistol would be much better.

Ever bullet you fire you're responsible for. Doc pointed out the perspective of the barrier to try to kill people... which, absolutely.

@daviddlevine

@MxVerda
The advice I'm giving to my family and friends who are trying to protect themselves is to learn to keep awareness of your surroundings, pepper spray (there's practice canisters with water) and if practical, cardio.

That will get one out of a lot of bad situations and there's not many where also having a pistol would be much better.

9 November at 22:44 | Open on mastodon.sandwich.net
Dani Tseng replied to Dani

@MxVerda
But there's also the question of, in a situation where you're panicking, where will possible bullets that miss _go_? And are you confident enough in yourself that you can try to fire in time without delay and also be sure that you won't have bullets going... say, down a street. Or into a car. Into a house?

Pepper spray, at worse, someone is having an unpleasant day but will live. But avoiding things in the first place is safer still.

@daviddlevine

@MxVerda
But there's also the question of, in a situation where you're panicking, where will possible bullets that miss _go_? And are you confident enough in yourself that you can try to fire in time without delay and also be sure that you won't have bullets going... say, down a street. Or into a car. Into a house?

9 November at 22:47 | Open on mastodon.sandwich.net
David D. Levine replied to Dani
Mx Verda replied to Dani

@Dani
Isaac Newton is the deadliest son of a bitch in space.
@daviddlevine

9 November at 22:49 | Open on lgbtqia.space
Dani Tseng replied to Mx

@MxVerda
Damn right.

I had cause at one point in my professional career to do reconstruction of a scene where an off duty cop shot at someone in an alleyway. There were misses found as bullet holes in garage doors in the alley and in houses a hundred yards away.

No bystander was hurt but... this was someone who is theoretically trained, and would have legal protections if a bystander _was_ hit.

I'm paying for my own training and have no such protection.

@daviddlevine

@MxVerda
Damn right.

I had cause at one point in my professional career to do reconstruction of a scene where an off duty cop shot at someone in an alleyway. There were misses found as bullet holes in garage doors in the alley and in houses a hundred yards away.

No bystander was hurt but... this was someone who is theoretically trained, and would have legal protections if a bystander _was_ hit.

9 November at 22:56 | Open on mastodon.sandwich.net
Donald Ball

@daviddlevine @Dani I would say it advises those that haven’t how they might better use their precious time.

8 November at 11:28 | Open on triangletoot.party
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