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David D. Levine

@Dani Okay, I see now what you were trying to say. It's a valid and very important point, but I'm afraid the words in your initial post didn't convey that message well.

8 November at 11:50 | Wall-to-wall | Open on wandering.shop
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Mx Verda

@daviddlevine @Dani
Reasonable criticism.
How would you best summarise it to a scared, tired person with caring responsibilities, if you feel up to it?

9 November at 22:26 | Open on lgbtqia.space
Dani Tseng replied to Mx

@MxVerda
The advice I'm giving to my family and friends who are trying to protect themselves is to learn to keep awareness of your surroundings, pepper spray (there's practice canisters with water) and if practical, cardio.

That will get one out of a lot of bad situations and there's not many where also having a pistol would be much better.

Ever bullet you fire you're responsible for. Doc pointed out the perspective of the barrier to try to kill people... which, absolutely.

@daviddlevine

@MxVerda
The advice I'm giving to my family and friends who are trying to protect themselves is to learn to keep awareness of your surroundings, pepper spray (there's practice canisters with water) and if practical, cardio.

That will get one out of a lot of bad situations and there's not many where also having a pistol would be much better.

9 November at 22:44 | Open on mastodon.sandwich.net
Dani Tseng replied to Dani

@MxVerda
But there's also the question of, in a situation where you're panicking, where will possible bullets that miss _go_? And are you confident enough in yourself that you can try to fire in time without delay and also be sure that you won't have bullets going... say, down a street. Or into a car. Into a house?

Pepper spray, at worse, someone is having an unpleasant day but will live. But avoiding things in the first place is safer still.

@daviddlevine

@MxVerda
But there's also the question of, in a situation where you're panicking, where will possible bullets that miss _go_? And are you confident enough in yourself that you can try to fire in time without delay and also be sure that you won't have bullets going... say, down a street. Or into a car. Into a house?

9 November at 22:47 | Open on mastodon.sandwich.net
David D. Levine replied to Dani
Mx Verda replied to Dani

@Dani
Isaac Newton is the deadliest son of a bitch in space.
@daviddlevine

9 November at 22:49 | Open on lgbtqia.space
Dani Tseng replied to Mx

@MxVerda
Damn right.

I had cause at one point in my professional career to do reconstruction of a scene where an off duty cop shot at someone in an alleyway. There were misses found as bullet holes in garage doors in the alley and in houses a hundred yards away.

No bystander was hurt but... this was someone who is theoretically trained, and would have legal protections if a bystander _was_ hit.

I'm paying for my own training and have no such protection.

@daviddlevine

@MxVerda
Damn right.

I had cause at one point in my professional career to do reconstruction of a scene where an off duty cop shot at someone in an alleyway. There were misses found as bullet holes in garage doors in the alley and in houses a hundred yards away.

No bystander was hurt but... this was someone who is theoretically trained, and would have legal protections if a bystander _was_ hit.

9 November at 22:56 | Open on mastodon.sandwich.net
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