@uint8_t In March 2024, the was a ruling by the European...

@uint8_t In March 2024, the was a ruling by the European Court of Justice, which basically said that all standards that are mandatory for products must be free of charge.

I just looked up what's the current state of this:

There is now an official web site where you can request free access to european standards, and access those that were sucessfully requested by others: https://ec.europa.eu/transparency/documents-request/home

It explicitly says that everyone may use it, not just people in the EU.

(See caveats in replies!)

Like 2 November at 10:43 | Wall-to-wall | Open on chaos.social

11 comments

Lena Schimmel

@uint8_t But it takes 15 to 30 days to process a request.

And among those documents that are already published, I did not yet find anything useful or interesting.

2 November at 10:50 | Open on chaos.social

Lena Schimmel

@uint8_t And I really hope that I did not just spread misinformation. I got that information from https://www.haustechnikdialog.de/News/29548/EuGH-Urteil-Europaeische-Normen-jetzt-kostenlos-verfuegbar-Was-bedeutet-das-fuer-Sie-

where it says:

"...können nun über eine spezielle EU-Website kostenlose Einsicht in die EN-Normen beantragen. Die Website der EU-Kommission ermöglicht es Ihnen, die benötigten Normen anzufordern. Beachten Sie jedoch, dass der Zugang nur für die europäische Fassung der Normen gilt. Nationale Normen, die nur in deutscher Sprache vorliegen, sind hiervon nicht betroffen."

where it says:

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2 November at 11:22 | Open on chaos.social

Lena Schimmel

@uint8_t But the page it links to... it does not explicitly say that it applies to standards documents. It looks more like an official, european version of @fragdenstaat or something similar.

I can't even find EN 71-5:2015, the toy safety standard that lead to the court ruling in the first place.

2 November at 11:27 | Open on chaos.social

Daniel Fisher(lennybacon)

@lenaschimmel @uint8_t @fragdenstaat It is only a limited set of standards. Nice, but not what we are asking for.

2 November at 13:21 | Open on infosec.exchange

rugk

@lennybacon @lenaschimmel @uint8_t @fragdenstaat well if yiu cannot find it, request it. Yeah but maybe the #FOI page is also used for the #EN norm acesss, aka all documents…

9 November at 13:07 | Open on chaos.social

rugk

@lennybacon @lenaschimmel @uint8_t @fragdenstaat Tried requesting something… it is a pain, the login was impossible as somehow they require a 2FA now, but you cannot add a #WebAuthn key (though there is something for "security key", but it does not work). Also needed to reset my password aaand… […]

9 November at 13:50 | Open on chaos.social

rugk

@lennybacon @lenaschimmel @uint8_t @fragdenstaat finally tried via #eID which creates a new account (though the text sometimes states different implying you can link it to your existing account) leading to another login failure if you're logged in with your "old" account.
And finally, #eID login works, and I can proceed.
The form is somewhat strange it seems to be made for businesses and orgs, I have to provide an org name etc. I wrote "private person" 😅