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@cwebber My personal guess: they're trying to destroy the credibility of the Wayback Machine.

10 October at 12:01 | Wall-to-wall | Open on researchbuzz.masto.host
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AJ Sadauskas

@researchbuzz @cwebber Or they want something removed from/made inaccessible in the Wayback Machine.

Or just for the Wayback Machine to go away altogether.

That's my suspicion anyway...

10 October at 12:14 | Open on social.vivaldi.net
ave 🐀

@ajsadauskas @Researchbuzz @cwebber Anyone can request a page to be removed from IA, especially ones' own domains, those can even be permanently excluded on request.

If one wants to discredit IA in court, one can argue that many "trusted" entities can upload WARCs and have them show up on IA. I don't think this is it either.

10 October at 14:31 | Open on queer.party
AJ Sadauskas

@ao @researchbuzz @cwebber You're assuming the content to be removed from IA is on one's own domains.

But what if it's content that was widely published on many domains?

Perhaps on websites like Reuters, the NY Times, CNN, The BBC, The Guardian, The Washington Post, etc?

This probably wouldn't cut it, without external pressure: "Hi IA, can you purge your archives of the websites of every major global news outlet? I believe they have reported factually correct information that I now find inconvenient..."

And that's just one example of how or why someone would want to make IA go away...

@ao @researchbuzz @cwebber You're assuming the content to be removed from IA is on one's own domains.

But what if it's content that was widely published on many domains?

Perhaps on websites like Reuters, the NY Times, CNN, The BBC, The Guardian, The Washington Post, etc?

This probably wouldn't cut it, without external pressure: "Hi IA, can you purge your archives of the websites of every major global news outlet? I believe they have reported factually correct information that I now find inconvenient..."

10 October at 22:20 | Open on social.vivaldi.net
steev hise

@cwebber

1. I think it's another step in the general disinfo strategy of a lot of authoritarian/fascist actors worldwide these days, to just make the truth less easy to know, to cast doubt on everything, to make the world just generally confusing and crazymaking so it's easier to get away with doing evil shit.
2. "properly hashed" - the idea with publishing hashed passwords is that there are also tables of hashed passwords out there, of common words and phrases and variations etc etc, and so by looking up a hash on those tables you can often find someone's password, especially if the password is a dumb one. which a lot are.
3. On the subject of someone wanting to get rid of something in the archive - I think the hack is mostly a psyop kinda strategy - if the IA developers and ops people are at all competent, the exploit that allowed the hackers to get data from the database isn't going to also allow them to for example go in and edit or delete archived content. The systems are probably separated enough to make that unlikely. But, just by doing the hack, the idea would be to cast doubt that this *didn't happen*. To make IA less trustable in general. Which is a shame.

@ajsadauskas @researchbuzz

@cwebber

1. I think it's another step in the general disinfo strategy of a lot of authoritarian/fascist actors worldwide these days, to just make the truth less easy to know, to cast doubt on everything, to make the world just generally confusing and crazymaking so it's easier to get away with doing evil shit.
2. "properly hashed" - the idea with publishing hashed passwords is that there are also tables of hashed passwords out there, of common words and phrases and variations etc etc, and so by looking...

10 October at 18:41 | Open on todon.eu
CassandraVert

@researchbuzz @cwebber
It's not hard to reason. All the info is free so there's nothing to steal. It's a nonprofit, so not worth ransoming. Why would anyone mess with them? Because they don't want an accurate record of history that everyone can see.

11 October at 2:43 | Open on indieweb.social
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