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Anomnomnomaly

Public Warning.

If you EVER, and I do mean EVER see a QR code for anything... not just some things, ANYTHING.

Treat it as a scam, do not scan it, they can easily be covered up with malicious redirects to fake sites to steal your financial details. Direct you to malware sites to try and infect your device.

Treat them all the same... as toxic, potential harmful to your identity and security.

Never trust them... EVER!!!

If you 100% must use one, do what you should be doing at any (ATM) cash machine, check for devices that have been installed by crooks. See if you can peel the code off, not just at the area around the code, but the whole sign... look for anything unusual and if you have any doubts... even if it's 1% doubt... DON'T USE IT

This isn't scaremongering, scammers and thieves are out there every day, placing fake QR codes on signs all over the place. No where is safe from them. The way to win is not to play. Don;t buy into the enshitification of everything, don;t be told that you can ONLY do it one specific way (legally they have to offer more than one way to pay for a service).

Please boost and spread the word.

#QRCodes
#ScamQRCodes
#Scammers
#Thieves
#IdentityTheft

54 comments
Jeph :verified:

@Anomnomnomaly Anytime I'm told I need an app, I go directly to the Play store or F-Droid and search for it, no trusting QR codes and I'm suspicious of links too.

Anomnomnomaly

@taur10

If any company asks me to install an app to use their company, or purchase a product... I shop elsewhere. I don't install apps I don;t need so that every fucker out there can steal/harvest my data and invade my privacy without my consent.

Jeph :verified:

@Anomnomnomaly Good idea, but becoming harder and harder these days unfortunately

Axomamma

@taur10 @Anomnomnomaly Cash still works. I do nothing with money on my phone.

Andrew Cook :hokkaido:

@Anomnomnomaly @taur10 This! Before I moved from Newcastle, Australia last year, I tried to park in the CBD to go to a restaurant with friends. The signs told me the *only* way to pay for parking was to download and sign up for an app.

I didn't pay.

solo

@Anomnomnomaly @taur10 yeah, I try to do this as MUCH as possible

but sometimes, it's entirely unnavoidable

will_shake

@Anomnomnomaly @taur10 I'm willing to use a website for this but try to avoid another app on the phone.

Simon Harper

@Anomnomnomaly never scanned one outside my home. Never will.

Hypolite Petovan

@Anomnomnomaly Contrary to what was claimed, this post is 98% scaremongering, discarding an entire technology because of *check notes* parking payment fraud, as depicted on the picture.

It is entirely possible to use QR codes safely with a minimum of care, especially when they aren't related to payment. No need for grand-standing statements or, goodness forbid, all caps.

EO

@Anomnomnomaly no. Use a scanner that shows what it is before opening it in a browser. If it's a redirect (bit.ly etc) THEN 👆🏻 don't open it. Most are redirects 😔 true.

Tom Walker

@Anomnomnomaly Yeah, the nightmare here is that most of the real QR codes link to really fishy-looking URLs - generally payment/billing firms you've never heard of - so there's no good way for even a clued-up user to tell real from fake, other than these factors like whether the actual physical thing looks like a sticker over the real code

Andre

@tomw I use Binary Eye (via F-Droid) to scan them.
If and only if they do not use link shorteners I use them.

@Anomnomnomaly

zarel

@a32 @tomw @Anomnomnomaly oh this is a nice suggestion, thank you

Jaden

@Anomnomnomaly that is a good shout 👏🏾 these QR code stickers are everywhere. Don't scan !!

Anomnomnomaly

@Jaden3

and don;t fall for anyone claiming 'it's perfectly safe' those are the worst of the wilfully ignorant and the most likely to get scammed... 'but technology is good and makes things easier'

I've worked in the industry for over 25yrs... there's a reason, i don;t use social media and avoid any of this 'internet of things'

It's because I actually understand the tech and what is being done behind the scenes that the avg user doesn't know... No one who works in the tech industry and actually understands the tech... uses it.

@Jaden3

and don;t fall for anyone claiming 'it's perfectly safe' those are the worst of the wilfully ignorant and the most likely to get scammed... 'but technology is good and makes things easier'

I've worked in the industry for over 25yrs... there's a reason, i don;t use social media and avoid any of this 'internet of things'

Gordon Meyer

@Anomnomnomaly @Jaden3 posting that you don’t use social media on social media 🤷🏻‍♂️

Axomamma

@Anomnomnomaly "I don't use social media."

I'm sorry, WHAT?

This is not a Wendy's, sir/ma'am, this is Mastodon, A SOCIAL MEDIA SITE.

Anomnomnomaly

Also be very wary of the 'techpologists'

those that claim all tech is benevolent, for the greater good (greater good) and to make the world easier and better for all.

It's not, it's there to increase profits for a minority by the exploitation of others... that's it. Any 'benefit' for people is a side effect not actually intended.

Steve

@Anomnomnomaly like khan academy. Definitely nothing but a cheap money grab 👀

tasket

@Anomnomnomaly There is so much illiteracy around this subject, and the illiteracies keep piling up.

Sarah Sammis

@Anomnomnomaly the one and only place I’ve used a QR code was at the emergency room. It was assigned to me and I could see that no one had accessed it to alter it.

winschdi

@Anomnomnomaly erm, not sure if just not using it is the right way. Use QR codes with a scanner that tells you the target. If the target is phishy / URL shortener, whatever, then don't go further, else use it.
I would recommend the app "QR Scanner" by @SECUSO_Research f-droid.org/packages/com.secus

𝖆𝔫𝔡𝔯𝔢𝔴 :enby_rebel:

@Anomnomnomaly Unless it's my Twixxer profile picture, you can scan that with impunity.

I mean I don't remember if you'll end up here or rickrolled because it points to a server endpoint I control and can alter on a whim, but it's safe. honest.

Danie

@Anomnomnomaly and what can happen when i scan them?

Cody

@Anomnomnomaly well dang I can't order at restaurants anymore

Kevin Karhan :verified:

@Anomnomnomaly OR REFUSE TO USE THEM AS A MATTER OF PRINCIPLE!

- Abythin else is support for #Cyberfacism and supporting #Cybercrime!

Joseph Dickson

@Anomnomnomaly if you're a designer of such documents always include the URL or text contained in the QR code below or adjacent to it.

Joseph Dickson

@alex @Anomnomnomaly yes, but if the website is product-name-dot-com and the URL presented on the fake is a random unrelated string, skepticism should kick in as it would for a phishing email. But, it's probably best not to use them at all.

Richard W. Woodley NO THREADS 🇨🇦🌹🚴‍♂️📷 🗺️

@Anomnomnomaly
Or just stop using them and require people to write out the URL addressees so one can at least examine it for legitimacy. BUT we won't do that because the convenience is worth the risk, after all we sacrifice our privacy for convenience and we embrace monopolies for convenience. Convenience trumps everything.

James Scholes

@Anomnomnomaly I don't disagree with anything you've written here, which is why it's such a shame that we occasionally have to use QR codes for accessibility reasons when inclusion hasn't been considered/possible from the start. For example, to direct people to a more accessible version of a data entry experience in a museum, give access to a web-browseable version of some event information without people having to type a URL, etc. It's a terrible solution and I hate it.

Lysander il breve

@Anomnomnomaly
That is fearmongering tho.
QR are links (sure, they are more complex and the simple act of scanning and decoding can be an attack vector, but so is receiving a message with some IM apps), and are no more malicious than links.

They are also a convenient way to encode information that the user should not have to type.

So yeah, everyone should use caution while operating a connected device, but hating QRs is scaremongering, and it'is stupid too.

Don't do that.

Fabian ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

@Anomnomnomaly When you actually have/want to scan something, I can really recommend BinaryEye (available via f-droid).

It will *not* open the link by default but will show you the scanned value first, then you can decide whatvto do.

Also it supports tons of code-formats, not just QRs (bar-codes, etc)

Aearil
@Anomnomnomaly Or, the same way you do to avoid phishing on your computer, just use a qr scanner app that won't redirect you automatically and let's you inspect the URL first
kaffando

@Anomnomnomaly

Everything is just a scam now, isn't it?

I give up.

Jigme Datse

@Anomnomnomaly If you *do* scan it, do so in a way that you can see the content prior to any action being taken. Whatever device you have, you may have to try various things (with trusted (ie. you created them, or at least have tested them) QR codes). They weren't *really* designed for public use.

Natasha

@Anomnomnomaly I avoid these kind of parking places, I still prefer to pay with cash if possible.

MoiraEve

@Anomnomnomaly That's the only way we can pay for parking at a local unattended garage where we go frequently. I guess we won't go there anymore.

Volker Stolz

@Anomnomnomaly Re-toot if you checked if there's enough of the code left to scan it 👨‍🔬

stella vantechelgibbity

@Anomnomnomaly ...or just use a sane qr code reader that doesnt immediately open websites and lets you copy the link first, so you can check it for authenticity. just simply scanning a code can never hurt you

Zero Tachikoma

@Anomnomnomaly Never open a link you don't see/know/understand. QR codes are incomprehensible to us, therefore QR codes must not be scanned.

Mizah

@Anomnomnomaly Kinda wild how there's no authentication on those at all, tbh. (Except maybe a Let's Encrypt certificate, but that doesn't verify that it's indeed the right parking app)

Will is too honest to be an MP

@Anomnomnomaly Hmm. While undoubtedly you have to be careful of QR codes (same as any links) your advice isn't quite right.
With a modicum of care and common sense, it's entirely possible to use QR codes successfully and safely.
A QR code pointing to a URL is effectively the same as a link, and you wouldn't say "Never click any links! Ever!!" now would you?
Yes, caution is needed (with anything online) but there's really no need for hysteria.

Niko Trimmel :veriqueer:

@Anomnomnomaly Japan has been using a new system with digital signatures in QR Codes for years now, would be time to adopt that worldwide..
america.cgtn.com/2019/05/20/ne

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@Anomnomnomaly
I have a stupid app, which just reads the content and shows me the URL. To open it I must exclicitely toggle it on against the hint.

secuso.aifb.kit.edu/QR_Scanner

I can recommend all of their apps, even if I don't use them all.

Cybarbie

@Anomnomnomaly Shouldn't this probably good advice also go for link shorteners?

Janis (she/her)

@Anomnomnomaly Theft like this isn't enshittification. It's just destruction. Please let Doctorow have his day in the light for drawing out a truly horrendous business practice.

Krishean Draconis

@Anomnomnomaly i agree that you should never scan qr codes, but i'd like to point out that if a company needs to update the url in one they'll often just put a sticker over the old one, because they don't care at all that it looks exactly like a scam. it's the same as when banks use weird 3rd party domain names for different parts of their website or emails, there's just no incentive for them to care since there's no regulations forbidding them from doing so. they're just going to continue training people to click on suspicious links (or scan qr codes) even though they look exactly like the sort of things that all the security trainings cry foul about

also if anyone uses zxing barcode scanner make sure to go into settings and uncheck "retrieve more info" so it doesn't ping the remote server when you scan a qr code

@Anomnomnomaly i agree that you should never scan qr codes, but i'd like to point out that if a company needs to update the url in one they'll often just put a sticker over the old one, because they don't care at all that it looks exactly like a scam. it's the same as when banks use weird 3rd party domain names for different parts of their website or emails, there's just no incentive for them to care since there's no regulations forbidding them from doing so. they're just going to continue training...

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