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Ben S.

@ireneista @mttaggart @mwl that's an arbitrary distinction from an end user standpoint, and also from the standpoint of most .io domain owners probably!

8 October at 17:04 | Wall-to-wall | Open on mastodon.sdf.org
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Michael W Lucas¹ :flan_mail:

@HunterZ @ireneista @mttaggart

It's an arbitrary distinction for us. Not for IANA.

They got a LOT of pain over .su's mishandling, and have institutional memory.

I *hope* .io sticks around. I suspect past pain will drive the decision, however.

8 October at 17:08 | Open on io.mwl.io
Irenes (many)

@HunterZ @mttaggart @mwl it seems that way until you think about it

the money for domain registrations - allegedly; we heard this from friends over the years but don't have a citation - went to the occupying military, not to the people

that was never going to be a stable situation, and we should be glad that it's not

8 October at 17:08 | Open on adhd.irenes.space
mos_8502 :verified:

@ireneista @HunterZ @mttaggart @mwl For handing over sovereignty, I have no objection. For disconnecting the .io TLD from any one country, I would have had no objection. But total removal, rather than simply making it a general use TLD, I find dickish.

8 October at 17:13 | Open on studio8502.ca
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Taggart :donor:

@ireneista @mos_8502 @HunterZ @mwl It's definitely a tension between procedural correctness (Country Code removed from ISO -> bye bye TLD) and practical reality of those impacts. And that's just at the policy level, without considering the justice of any decision to the people who are a) impacted and b) should have the right of self-determination.

And ironically, this treaty continues to deny the Chagossians just that, in that they were not party to the negotiations.

But Frankie Bontemps, a second generation Chagossian in the UK, told the BBC that he felt "betrayed" and "angry" at the news because "Chagossians have never been involved" in the negotiations.

"We remain powerless and voiceless in determining our own future", he said, and called for the full inclusion of Chagossians in drafting the treaty.

bbc.com/news/articles/c98ynejg

@ireneista @mos_8502 @HunterZ @mwl It's definitely a tension between procedural correctness (Country Code removed from ISO -> bye bye TLD) and practical reality of those impacts. And that's just at the policy level, without considering the justice of any decision to the people who are a) impacted and b) should have the right of self-determination.

8 October at 17:17 | Open on infosec.exchange
Ben S.

@mttaggart @ireneista @mos_8502 @mwl Creating TLDs associated with countries and then allowing domains to be registered with them that have nothing to do with those countries seems like an incredibly fraught framework.

8 October at 17:30 | Open on mastodon.sdf.org
Irenes (many)

@HunterZ @mttaggart @mos_8502 @mwl oh definitely. it's a really strange thing to do in the first place. apparently there's quite a lot of money in it, which is why it happens.......

8 October at 17:32 | Open on adhd.irenes.space
Chartreuse

@ireneista @HunterZ @mttaggart @mos_8502 @mwl some small nations actually make a decent amount of their GDP from their domain names. Like the Federated States of Micronesia's .fm, or Tuvalu's .tv, or I guess the infamous .tk (Tokelau)

8 October at 18:55 | Open on social.restless.systems
Irenes (many) replied to Chartreuse

@ChartreuseK @HunterZ @mttaggart @mos_8502 @mwl it's quite a situation internet governance has gotten into, in that regard. we have no idea what the ideal state of things would be or how to move towards it ethically.

8 October at 18:59 | Open on adhd.irenes.space
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