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Aral Balkan

@calebjasik Yeah, Matrix is just too complicated for me to get my simple little head around, sadly.

27 Jun 2022 at 11:55 | Open on mastodon.ar.al
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arbocenc

@aral @calebjasik

I don't think @matrix is specially complicated. You don't need to setup a new instance, just create an account and choose and app like #fluffychat , #elements or even a terminal client.

You can also use a #telegram - #matrix bridge to communicate with your telegram contacts.

27 Jun 2022 at 13:03 | Open on todon.nl
calebjasik

@aral mmm i think it’s similar to other federated platforms like mastodon, no? you can get a quick account via chat.mozilla.org and signing in with a Firefox account if you have one, mozilla irc transitioned to matrix a couple of years ago: matrix.org/blog/2019/12/19/wel

27 Jun 2022 at 13:44 | Open on mastodon.social
Aral Balkan

@calebjasik Thanks. I mean, I have taken a look at it. It’s overly complex and I’m not a fan of extreme complexity. I find it quite unusable. Also, not happy that they have VC (matrix.org/blog/2019/10/10/new) while appearing as “a foundation.” Smells very Mozilla. So I’ll be steering clear.

27 Jun 2022 at 14:18 | Open on mastodon.ar.al
calebjasik

@aral fair. i always wondered how hard it would be to implement chat over activitypub, though i don’t know what allowance there is in activitypub for e2ee

27 Jun 2022 at 14:21 | Open on mastodon.social
Csepp 🌢

@aral @calebjasik They seem much more privacy conscious than Mozilla. Can't comment on the protocol complexity, but I use about three clients regularly and they cover most functionality I want. Check out Nheko if you want a nice pmOS-friendly client, it's basically on par with Element.
The ecosystem around the protocol seems pretty healthy to me.
(And unlike Mozilla they can sell server hosting. I doubt they'll need to rely on Google.)

27 Jun 2022 at 17:39 | Open on merveilles.town
calebjasik

@csepp @aral btw, google funds nheko if you didn’t know matrix.org/blog/2020/09/09/gso

hmm i can’t find more info tho? i remembered google strongly funding the project…

27 Jun 2022 at 17:45 | Open on mastodon.social
calebjasik

@csepp @aral tho i believe it’s different from firefox in the sense that nheko is just one client

27 Jun 2022 at 18:06 | Open on mastodon.social
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