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Drew DeVault

10 September 2024:

I can't understand the fuss about Israeli soldiers who put on the underwear of Gazan women. They meant that as mockery, which is not nice, but mockery is as nothing compared to the atrocities committed against those same women (and almost all of Gaza). Those women (and their families) have been driven from their homes. Some have been killed, and more are being killed. Those soldiers have probably participated in the real atrocities.

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John Regan

@drewdevault hey Richard did you stop to think if they're ok doing this shit on camera they're probably doing far worse off-camera?

HellPie

@drewdevault dude sounds like the most unshowered destiny fan tbh especially with the way he defends pedophilia

Dan Leech

@drewdevault fwiw I don't read that as "defending soldiers that are wearing Gazan womens underwear". I read it as people being more outraged about _that_ than the killing and it took me a while to read it otherwise.

ttamttam

@drewdevault yikes. While I hate to admit it, I've made that mistake before:
- Horrible thing X happens.
- We're all upset about X
- Slightly less horrible (still horrible!) thing Y happens. Y is a result of X.
- Everyone's upset about Y
- Me: why are we upset about Y when X is causing it, is even worse, and is still ongoing?
- How people see me: stop being snowflakes about Y, it's not that bad.

Although I only had to make that mistake once, and I was in my teens/early 20s...

@drewdevault yikes. While I hate to admit it, I've made that mistake before:
- Horrible thing X happens.
- We're all upset about X
- Slightly less horrible (still horrible!) thing Y happens. Y is a result of X.
- Everyone's upset about Y
- Me: why are we upset about Y when X is causing it, is even worse, and is still ongoing?
- How people see me: stop being snowflakes about Y, it's not that bad.

Phel

@drewdevault Could this be classified as "whataboutism"? He apparently does see that this is "not nice" so I struggle to understand how he fails to understand the issue here, even more so in the face of the war crimes committed.

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