Gregory's ServerFor a programming language that is definitely not a religion, this looks suspiciously like a church:
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  It always seems to me that Rust is defined by what it does not do. I want to get things done. Show me examples of how to do things in Rust, rather than examples of what not to do. I don't think C++ is very good, but at the end of the day engineers have problems to solve. Rust is not about solving problems, it is about avoiding problems.  Well, you can ask to people working in those companies: https://github.com/omarabid/rust-companies But for my place to work, it allow us to share code between frontend and backend more easily than typescript, it allow us to make a better Kafka consumer than the previous ones.  @profdc9 @kornel  If you want to move fast and break things, Rust is the wrong language for the job. Rust is appropriate when your program needs to actually work correctly. @argv_minus_one @kornel Rust developers could address this problem, but they don't feel the need to meet prospective users halfway. It is their conceit that their way is the only right way that is repulsive to many prospective users. This is not considering the idea that Rust may have flaws, the notion of the Rust community outright rejects. C++ is quite flawed but at least its deficiencies are recognized. It is this attitude that makes many not want to adopt a language managed by fanatics. Don't be silly. If we thought Rust had no flaws, there never would have been a version 1.1, let alone 1.81. As for meeting users halfway, you're going to need to be specific about what limitations you've bumped into, before I can say anything meaningful about them. @argv_minus_one @kornel I am not silly, I am not being taken seriously, and so I will not further address this topic. You are welcome to sell Rust with your condescension to someone else. Peace out.  @argv_minus_one @profdc9 @kornel And this is why everyone else dislike the rust evangelisation squad, nothing but condescending shallow talk, and dismissing others thoughts quickly from rote memorised arguements rather than actually talking with people..   @kornel the speaker is standing on the long side of the room, not the short side, so at least it is a Progressive kind of religion      @Lyle @kornel 2024: US gov issues guidelines re memory safe languages @kornel @lisamelton It’s only a religion if it's from the Ecclesiastic region of France; otherwise it's just sparkling cult :p    @kornel I stand for the flag :transgender_flag: and kneel for the :neobot_code_rust: @sotolf @RL_Dane @kornel as I read "before your memory runs full because the church depended on 800 packages" I was picturing how fast all the downloads scroll by in the terminal. Feel like singing "70 packages compiled, 70 packages compiled! Download the next, this is the best, 10230 packages to compile!"  Just play choir music by Johann Sebastian Bach & Enigma in background & the scene is set, with soundFX ranging from cold ❄️ wind blowing through bell 🔔 towers in Siberian winters to Friday the Thirteenth scary loops  |
@kornel luckily they don't do duck typing in rust