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Foone🏳️‍⚧️

my fundamental problem is that I'm passionate about changing a lot of things about the computer industry but all of them are things that would need to be changed back in 1989.

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Foone🏳️‍⚧️

EPSON WHY DID YOU NEED FOUR CONNECTORS FOR A TWO CONNECTOR POWER SUPPLY?

The pinout of the 4-pin connector.
Pins 1 & 3 are ground, pins 2 & 4 are +15.5V DC
Foone🏳️‍⚧️

well I beeped it out and either this is a different connector, or they lied and pin 1 isn't ground, only pin 3 is.

Foone🏳️‍⚧️

it has been ZERO DAYS since I have had to open up a laptop just to figure out where to shove volts in

Foone🏳️‍⚧️

I'm not an expert but I don't think the RAM is supposed to do that.

A grey 486 laptop with the keyboard lifted off. Inside you can see an empty spot for a hard drive, a floppy drive, and there's some kind of ram module just floating around in there at a diagonal angle
Foone🏳️‍⚧️

yeah I've not seen this kind of RAM module before. some kind of Epsom custom thing, maybe?

A ram module. It's 6 RAM chips stuck on a small PCB, with a 40pin(44pin?) terminal pin connector on the bottom.
Foone🏳️‍⚧️

AH-HA! that was the wrong manual. They DID change the pinout!

Thankfully, it's compatible.

The pinout for a 4-pin AC connector. Pin 1 is Ground, pin 2 is +15.5V DC, and pins 3/4 are unused.
Foone🏳️‍⚧️

how long has it been since you've had to straighten the pins on your RAM chips?

Because for me it's "today", but I imagine for everyone else it's either "never" or "when I tried to upgrade my IBM 5150 PC" or "I had one of those computers with ZIP RAM"

Foone🏳️‍⚧️

yeah this RAM module uses a 44-pin (2mm pitch?) connector.

That's great if you want it to be possible to accidentally plug your hard drive into your RAM slot or vice versa! Normally that's not remotely possible for so many reasons.

Foone🏳️‍⚧️

I seriously can't think of any era of PC hardware where that was even remotely possible, for physical connector reasons.

You could use the same connector for both RAM and hard drives back in the early PC era with HardCards and RAM upgrade ISA cards, but that wasn't really a case of mixing up the connectors: they just both plugged in the same generic place.

Foone🏳️‍⚧️ replied to Foone🏳️‍⚧️

THE PINOUT IS FOR THE POWER CABLE

NOT THE POWER CONNECTOR ON THE LAPTOP

meaning:
1. it's mirrored
2. I may have just reverse-volted it and let the magic smoke out

Foone🏳️‍⚧️ replied to Foone🏳️‍⚧️

yeah, I borrowed someone who has... nosmia? Whatever the term for "has a sense of smell" is. It's got Magic Smoke Stank now.

Foone🏳️‍⚧️ replied to Foone🏳️‍⚧️

Pulled everything out. It's a small computer! This is everything but the keyboard, hard drive, floppy drive, and screen.

Three PCBs. The top right one is an L-shaped modem, the bottom-right one is a small stick of a PSU, and the left one is a sort of reversed-F shape of a main board, with a few large chips on it
Foone🏳️‍⚧️ replied to Foone🏳️‍⚧️

apparently instead of having a "POWER GOOD" pin like ATX PSUs do, they went for the opposite, where they have a pin that tells you if the power is sus *amongus noise*

A list of pinouts. Pin 17 is listed as "VCC SUS"
Foone🏳️‍⚧️ replied to Foone🏳️‍⚧️

someday when I have money again I'm getting me an inspection microscope with HDMI out so I can do better close-up pictures of these things.
But here's the power supply board. Something on here smells (supposedly) like Magic Smoke.

Do they make smelloscopes?

Two views of a small PCB, top and bottom. It's got a bunch of inductors, capacitors, and a ton of little resistors.
Foone🏳️‍⚧️ replied to Foone🏳️‍⚧️

wait

ZOOM, ENHANCE!

I don't think it's supposed to look like that (Amusingly, I'm listening to Well There's Your Problem in another tab)

A SOT223 chip that's exploded
Foone🏳️‍⚧️ replied to Foone🏳️‍⚧️

the question is: what the fuck is this thing?

the label has been sadly... exploded.

I think it's either a MOSFET or a very small voltage regulator?

4bz replied to Foone🏳️‍⚧️

@foone I came here to ask if anywhere it specified which view that pin out was 😅

OpenComputeDesign replied to Foone🏳️‍⚧️

@foone This is why I usually connect ground to the shield of a DB connector. Still not foolproof

past oral no mad

@foone Often! I repair old arcade game PCBs and the 2114 RAMs are a common failure point. The hoard of new old stock ones I've got needs to have their leads formed to fit in the board.

Lana Sarah Aurelia

@foone why does this look like you edited this in ms paint?

Pyxaron

@foone Considering the pin count, it'd almost make sense for it to be an early "Disk On Module".

Phil M0OFX

@foone That wasn't uncommon on early laptops, everyone had their own form factor. Toshiba had a different module for every blasted laptop model. Infuriating when you want to upgrade your Satellite or Libretto, even when they were new.

A cool crab wearing shades

@foone huh! I've seen a couple SIPPs before but not in a short laptop format like that.

vga256

@foone it's going to be a deep, neurotic joy when you find out only 2 of those pins are actually being used

Chris Petrilli

@foone ampacity? That’s all I can think of.

mos_8502 :verified:

@petrillic @foone That would be my guess as well. Split the current over two conductors so you can get a better per-metre price on the cable.

Adriano

@foone *bangs top of power supply*

We can fit so much ground in this baby

froqstar

@foone but the high currents... couldn't use standard barrel jack because it wouldn't have been proprietary...mumble...

SnowFox

@foone I like how the connector in the drawing is basically rotationally symmetric.

(Maybe the difference is obvious on the originals, but I suspect it’s symmetric and any appearance otherwise is just due to the scan resolution.)

Kevin P. Fleming

@foone Hey someone had a time machine that went to 1988, would that work?

bEA 🔓

@foone “Sarah Connor? I'd like to talk to you about laptop power supply connector design!”

GwenTheKween :verifiedtrans: :neofox_nom_verified:

@foone sounds to me like the first order of business is a time machine, then

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