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@ThatOneGuyT_T

this is now one of the most popular memes on mastodon
aside from the slight inaccuracy* I have't seen one post about the merits of forced arbitration
far as I can tell, arbitration is bad for plaintiffs and *really bad for lawyers

epi.org/publication/the-arbitr
consumerreports.org/mandatory-

* he also agreed to the ToS when he bought tickets last year

@ThatOneGuyT_T

this is now one of the most popular memes on mastodon
aside from the slight inaccuracy* I have't seen one post about the merits of forced arbitration
far as I can tell, arbitration is bad for plaintiffs and *really bad for lawyers

epi.org/publication/the-arbitr
consumerreports.org/mandatory-

mike805

@failedLyndonLaRouchite @ThatOneGuyT_T The Constitution specifically says the right of trial by jury exists for civil money disputes above a certain amount. This should be unconstitutional.

Amata :verified_genderqueer:

@ThatOneGuyT_T @Jennifer i pulled news articles on it. A) wow. B) he only is after $50,000 for a wrongful death suit? For his WIFE?! Who thinks their spouse is only worth $50k?!

And she was a doctor, not white. After eating what they are slightly concerned about food (coming out without special allergen flags proving proper prep as it should but “reassured by server”) he goes to hotel room and she goes to a second restraunt where she eventually dies alone at hospital before husband even makes it there? I feel like there is…something missing. A) racial motives? (Husband seems white in photos too) B) who leaves their wife immediately after slightly suspect food alone C) WHO ONLY THINKS THEIR SPOUSE IS WORTH ONLY $50k WHEN THEY ARE A DOCTOR PROBABLY MAKING 10x THAT IN A YEAR! MUCH LESS LIKE…love? Care? Missing them?

Dude. If I wrongfully die Id better be worth at least a million to my partner, maybe more like 10 million, or Im coming back and haunting!

@ThatOneGuyT_T @Jennifer i pulled news articles on it. A) wow. B) he only is after $50,000 for a wrongful death suit? For his WIFE?! Who thinks their spouse is only worth $50k?!

And she was a doctor, not white. After eating what they are slightly concerned about food (coming out without special allergen flags proving proper prep as it should but “reassured by server”) he goes to hotel room and she goes to a second restraunt where she eventually dies alone at hospital before husband even makes it...

Jennifer

@sunguramy @ThatOneGuyT_T wow! I heard only brief details about this before! But I'm always in favor of trashing Disney, they're terrible 😝

Amata :verified_genderqueer:

@Jennifer @ThatOneGuyT_T oh the disney+ thing is a wtf, agreed! but the rest is like....woahhhhhh xD

Jennifer

@sunguramy @ThatOneGuyT_T yeah Brian and Steve had better go for more than $50k if a giant corporation kills us 😂

Carina C. Zona (is in Berlin)

@sunguramy @ThatOneGuyT_T @Jennifer It may be that they're leaving the door open to the jury to return big on punitive damages. Or maybe he doesn't want any blood money and just wants a court to find Disney guilty and to cover the costs of a nice tombstone for his wife's grave.

Karstanization 🦀🦀

@cczona @sunguramy @ThatOneGuyT_T @Jennifer Yes, I don't believe a dollar amount has been set by their pleadings. Just for procedural reasons they have to state they're seeking "at least $50,000".

Jonathan Kamens

@sunguramy @ThatOneGuyT_T @Jennifer It's not that he only thinks his wife's death is worth $50k compensation. It's that his lawyers had to ask for a minimum of $50k compensation in order to get the case heard by the court they wanted to hear it. The $50k language in the lawsuit is standard legal language. They'll ask for an order of magnitude or two more if it goes to trial.

Kierkrampusgaanks regretfully

@ThatOneGuyT_T it doesn’t mean that and i wouldn’t be surprised if the lawyer/s arguing that is on their way to burgerflipping jobs now

[Yaseenist] CauseOfBSOD

@ThatOneGuyT_T if disney seriously thinks there isnt going to be a significant spike in piracy rates then they are really out of touch with reality

Bill Seitz

@ThatOneGuyT_T on the other hand, if you trick your wife into clicking through an agreement..... perfect crime.

rickf

@ThatOneGuyT_T Many (including me) argue that individual (not commercial/organised) piracy can be justified as a form of civil disobedience against corporate greed, exploitation, and control.

Given how the entertainment industry has tried to control the flow of information, the design of hardware, stymie internet development, and repeatedly exploited customers, it’s totally understandable.

Ivan

@ThatOneGuyT_T it's a weird world where piracy maybe could save your life

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@ThatOneGuyT_T Another good reason for piracy as you call it is that they make the license 70+ years after author's death.... like give me a break. They don't even need 30 years period for a copyright license. The level of corruption is a sickening thing. Eff big business

gavinisdie :troll:

@ThatOneGuyT_T infact, Disney may actually be a case of it being morally WRONG to use their service

Hot Dog Water

@ThatOneGuyT_T

*except in America when the breakers of laws are also the makers of laws.

Notavi

@GGMcBG @ThatOneGuyT_T Only if you conflate legal and moral.

Indeed, this is one set of circumstances that throws the difference between the two into stark relief.

Dr. G. Power

@ThatOneGuyT_T Morally correct to pirate in this instance.

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@ThatOneGuyT_T Dude is only seeking 50k in damages for the death of his wife, from a billionaire monopoly... Every part of this is upsetting.

🌿Mouse-Friend🌿

@ThatOneGuyT_T We hate both that we didn't for even a second think this was satire, and that we were absolutely correct.

This is the bad place and we want out.

Julian (♪🌻♫)

@ThatOneGuyT_T I like how there's a bunch of replies and NOT ONE person is questioning why Disney is even being sued. They did not operate the restaurant in question, and much less "killed his wife". For sure, that Disney+ argument is extremely bizarre and should've never been put to paper because it has horrifying implications, but the whole case is odd.

Daniel Marks

@ThatOneGuyT_T I don't really see Disney walking this one back. They allowed an attorney representing them to file this argument in a court of law. Even if they win, they lose. This will only empower others to include unconscionable terms of service in their agreements which will certainly cause fits for the courts.

Kevin Karhan :verified:

@ThatOneGuyT_T I'm so glad these #ToS are so illegal in #Germany...

But yeah, #piracy is an act of #SelfDefense and #MutualDefense at this point!

Gold gab ich für Eisen

@kkarhan @ThatOneGuyT_T but I wonder if you can really sue a company owing a restautant for alleged criminal negligence of its employee in Germany. I would rather expect a criminal investigation against the chef and maybe his manager, maybe with civil lawsuits against them as well.

Kevin Karhan :verified:

@nanoelquant @ThatOneGuyT_T propably all of them would be in custody as suspects in a criminal case, and if someone dies, it's inevitably a criminal case and noone can dodge that nor stop investigators! In fact murder is one of the few things that'll get suspects ineligible for bail...

- Cuz death cases are "must investigate" by law espechally if the death certificate states anything but "death due to old age" or is like a certified death in a hospital due to medical conditions, and even that will get autopsy'd to prevent coverups.

Like a company can't weasel itself out of criminal charges and every bodily harm can't be excluded from that unless proven to be based off gross neglect by a customer...

- Safety is being taken serious here and consumer protection as well: So "forced arbitration" and other regulations that infringe on consumer rights are so blatantly illegal, both consumer protection agenvies and competitiors will basically flood anyone who dares that into insolvency with expensive "cease and decist letters" (they ain't free here for the perpertrator!)

So yeah, U.S. laws are a corporateist clusterfuck, and alongside the fact that it's an extremely litigatious juristictiom, I'd never want to do business in the USA...

@nanoelquant @ThatOneGuyT_T propably all of them would be in custody as suspects in a criminal case, and if someone dies, it's inevitably a criminal case and noone can dodge that nor stop investigators! In fact murder is one of the few things that'll get suspects ineligible for bail...

- Cuz death cases are "must investigate" by law espechally if the death certificate states anything but "death due to old age" or is like a certified death in a hospital due to medical conditions, and even that will...

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@ThatOneGuyT_T I kind of want to cancel my subscription out of protest.

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