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kurtseifried (he/him)

@kevinrns @ghorwood where’s the profile manager? 😞it’s 2024, how do they not support this yet.

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Reinout van Schouwen

@kurtseifried
What are you talking about? Mozilla had profiles decades ago.
Anyhow I never use them. I just use container tabs whenever I want to separate browsing sessions from each other.
@kevinrns @ghorwood

kurtseifried (he/him)

@reinouts @kevinrns @ghorwood No profile switcher. type "about:profile", no quick way without installing third party tools.

Because in 2024 who would have more than one account? Nobody!

JacksonBates

@kurtseifried @reinouts @kevinrns @ghorwood They've got a native profile switcher in beta behind one of the many config settings. I used to use a third party extension for it, but now use the built in with no issues.

(Sorry not to share the actually useful details...not at my desktop right now. I might remember to come back with the details)

wizzwizz4

@JacksonBates @kurtseifried @reinouts @kevinrns @ghorwood Beta? The profile switcher's been around for donkey's years. Command-line parameter -P, or it appears automatically if you have multiple profiles and none default.

JacksonBates

@wizzwizz4 @kurtseifried @reinouts @kevinrns @ghorwood no, I specifically mean a simple UI affordance for it, in the menu bar.

JacksonBates

@wizzwizz4 @kurtseifried @reinouts @kevinrns @ghorwood ah, here it is. in about:config you can set browser.profiles.enabled to true to access the UI switcher.

kurtseifried (he/him)

@JacksonBates @wizzwizz4 @reinouts @kevinrns @ghorwood why on gods good earth is that not a default or easily enabled? Sigh.

Reinout van Schouwen

@kurtseifried
What's the use case? Users have their own accounts so their own profile by definition. Other reasons to have separate profiles within an account is covered by container tabs or private windows, AFAICS.
@JacksonBates @wizzwizz4 @kevinrns @ghorwood

Sylvain Delafoy

@reinouts @kurtseifried

I'm an extensive user of container tabs and enjoy having a single window holding my browsing so less use of Alt-tab ( my fingers are gratefull to Mozilla ).

It is great, after a small training websites open in the right container (except google ones, I have to look at the container name in the URL because that is how you keep them separated)

Consistent user expertience...

I love it

wizzwizz4

@reinouts @kurtseifried Different sets of extensions, or config that isn't covered by container tabs or private windows. For example, a work VPN.

shine

@reinouts @kurtseifried @JacksonBates @wizzwizz4 @kevinrns @ghorwood I was often in a situation where for example work used a different password manager than I do. Having two password managers fight for a single login form is annoying. In those cases, it's also more comfortable to have a higher degree of separation, I sometimes open tabs in wrong containers.

squalouJenkins

@reinouts @kurtseifried @JacksonBates @wizzwizz4 @kevinrns @ghorwood There are cornercases where containers are not enough. Example : Saved users and passwords are (weirdly enough) shared accross containers. Now imagine several cloud-provider account with different account alias but same username (because business, no choice, aws). This is my daily job situation :D

Reinout van Schouwen replied to squalouJenkins

@squalouJenkins
A valid corner case indeed, but I suppose you could use third party password managers instead of relying on built-in saved password functionality.
@kurtseifried @JacksonBates @wizzwizz4 @kevinrns @ghorwood

Rémi Cardona

@kurtseifried @JacksonBates @wizzwizz4 @reinouts @kevinrns @ghorwood it's behind a setting because it's a new development, simple as that. It'll be turned on by default when deemed ready, it's been publicly announced.

William B Peckham

@kurtseifried @JacksonBates @wizzwizz4 @reinouts @kevinrns @ghorwood Perhaps because only seven out of 100 users make use of that. To some of the ones that use it it's terribly important, but most people don't.

kurtseifried (he/him)

@wbpeckham @JacksonBates @wizzwizz4 @reinouts @kevinrns @ghorwood Chrome and Edge have done this for years. Shrug. I think it might be more than 7%, even my kids use separate profiles (school and personal). I suspect a lot of people do this, especially with BYOD policies becoming more common.

Kevin Russell

@kurtseifried @reinouts @ghorwood

I don't get fanboys.

You're wrong.

It would be easy to distract from this festival of getting rid of Chrome, now that they have stolen uBlock from their users, because they are corporate spies, monopolistic subversives, but it's a holiday "Dump Chrome Day" and its too tiring to list all the ways Chrome, and Google suck.

Touch some grass.

support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/p

@kurtseifried @reinouts @ghorwood

I don't get fanboys.

You're wrong.

It would be easy to distract from this festival of getting rid of Chrome, now that they have stolen uBlock from their users, because they are corporate spies, monopolistic subversives, but it's a holiday "Dump Chrome Day" and its too tiring to list all the ways Chrome, and Google suck.

bananamangodog

@kurtseifried @reinouts @kevinrns @ghorwood

about:profile then "Launch profile in new browser", then close the original window. Not technically a switcher function but it does the same except close the original window.

Also turn on the profile selection dialog when you launch Firefox change the shortcut to include the -P switch.

Cal Alaera

@kurtseifried @reinouts @kevinrns @ghorwood

It's about:profiles, not about:profile

Or you could make a shortcut that runs firefox.exe -P (capital P)

Once you have more than one profile the default when you launch Firefox is to ask you which one you want to use.

Or you could do what I did, ditch profiles and start using Containers instead, they're also built in and far more flexible, addons further enhance them.

Happy to help, have a nice day. :)

Kevin Russell

@kurtseifried @ghorwood

Import Profiles

"You'll be prompted to choose which data you want to import. If you've set up multiple Chrome browser profiles, you'll first be asked which profile you want to import data from. "

howtogeek.com/333047/how-to-mi

kurtseifried (he/him)

@kevinrns @ghorwood Profile Manager. A lot of people need to switch between more than one account easily. Not profile import. Chrome vs Firefox:

mitchellmebane :donor:

@kurtseifried @kevinrns @ghorwood Firefox currently has containers. They're not quite the same as profiles, but they're in some ways more flexible, since you can control them on a per-tab basis.

For some reason, they choose to ship this functionality in an extension. I don't really know why.
addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firef

Paul Hennell • Dev

@mitchellmebane @kurtseifried Containers are the best. Can have multiple Microsoft/Google tabs right next to each in different accounts, and set stuff like Facebook to only open it its own sandboxed container.
Use profiles still in Chrome, but haven't used Firefox profiles for years now.

Tomi the Slav and 1024 others

@kurtseifried @kevinrns @ghorwood 4 days ago I started migration Chrome --> FF. I'm using multiple synced Google profiles as you, Chrome on desktop and mobile.
I really want to make a switch, but I still didn't find an easy way to accomplish that in FF. Maybe I'm dumb.
Also, some business related plugins are non-existent in FF.
So yeah, I agree, the switch is probably dead easy for simple use cases. But for my use case, not so.

dusoft

@po3mah Your use case differs. Anyway, all those Google service-related annoyances are because Google actively slows other browsers and disables some functionality for them. So, you might want to direct your complaints (if you are a paying user) to Google support.

Tomi the Slav and 1024 others

@dusoft Funny, today I tried copy pasting images from Google Photos and it suddenly works! I have to update the blog.
If I haven't made that screenshot few days ago, I would thought my mind is playing tricks on me :)
*update* it works, but only in main photo folder, but not in albums. What a strange issue.

dusoft

@po3mah Weird, indeed. I also identified an issue, where it's impossible to drag and drop to Drive, but most of the time it works. Not sure whose bug or if affected by an extension.

kaffee

@kurtseifried @kevinrns @ghorwood on my box I can simply rightclick the firefox icon and choose "Start profilemanager" . I think it is vanilla functionallity.

elhult

@kurtseifried @kevinrns @ghorwood I really thought that feature was useless, but it makes me glad that someone appreciates it. I tried it ~10years ago but found it more confusing than helpful.

What are some of your use cases for browser profiles? Maybe I'm missing out on something?

Deb E.

@elhult @kurtseifried @kevinrns @ghorwood Personally, I run a "Personal/default" profile, which is just me, and I have a work profile, and a writer profile, and a profile I manage to easily manage my son's accounts that he's old enough to use but too young to have the passwords for ...

I often run 3 browser sessions at the same time (personal, writer, work) & flick between as I move through my daily tasks for each ...

elhult

@debe @kurtseifried @kevinrns @ghorwood thanks for the practical example. What benefits does the profiles bring you? Active session (e.g. staying logged-in on a site with multiple different accounts)? Tabs-as-bookmark? Privacy? The graphical compartementalization helping the mind separate things? Something else?

Deb E.

@elhult @kurtseifried @kevinrns @ghorwood Yeah, basically all those. Each profile opens with my usual tabs for each life role. I find it lets me multitask while providing some clear separation, reduces me having to log out & back into the few sites I use in more than one capacity ...

Un Bourguignon 🇪🇺🇺🇦 :firedoge:

@kurtseifried
Simply lauch your Firefox like this : "firefox.exe -p" (on Windows anyway).
@kevinrns @ghorwood

gullevek ☢️

@kurtseifried @kevinrns @ghorwood About:profiles. Access them like it’s 1995. Also no colored tabs and other nice things. But at least I get adblocking and not using a google service

Danny Colin

@kurtseifried @kevinrns @ghorwood It's coming. Meanwhile, there's about:profiles. Hopefully, there's also a patch to fix your shitty attitude.

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