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jenbanim

@frameworkcomputer Beautiful. This is probably the least consequential thing I have strong feelings about lol

Daniel Quinn

@mattgriffin @frameworkcomputer 🎶 all things considered I couldn't be better I must say! 🎶

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@frameworkcomputer

I'm waiting for you to start selling with Linux preinstalled. It would eliminate the biggest hindrance for people on the edge of trying and moving to Linux from Windows.

DFYX

@delosmzp @frameworkcomputer Probably not worth it as Linux users tend to have strong opinions on which distribution and desktop environment they prefer, especially the ones who buy a tinker-friendly laptop. Whichever combination(s) you offer, you'll only reach a really small amount of customers.

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@DFYX

Read my comment again. For people on the edge. It implies these people are brand new to Linux and would want an easy way to move to Linux - and installing is the biggest hindrance for anyone.

Basic distros like Mint or Pop OS or Ubuntu works best given the support available.

Gloopsies :fedora:

@delosmzp @dfyx

Hopefully not Pop!_OS since it is moving to a very WIP alpha DE that is not for beginners at all, but Ubuntu and Fedora are officially supported so it would probably be one of those

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@gloopsies I wouldn’t think it’s not for beginners at all. It’s quite easy to use and get a hang off. And it’ll be a while before Cosmic DE becomes available to the general public.

Gloopsies :fedora:

@delosmzp

It is a new and not very well tested project and the alternative is a very very outdated Gnome experience

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@gloopsies I think differently on the matter but alright..to each its own

wheeze_NL

@delosmzp @frameworkcomputer since there are so many distros, where should they start?

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@wheeze_NL Ubuntu, Fedora, Pop OS are great beginner options

wheeze_NL

@delosmzp yes, but it's quite time intensive to have all those options pre-installed. You'd need so much inventory, for every version.

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@wheeze_NL not necessarily. They can install after the order has been placed. What you’re suggesting is not how it works.

wheeze_NL

@delosmzp so they need to handle every systen after it's sold.
I presume they are ready on the shelves, in the closed box already.

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@wheeze_NL again, not how it works, the way you’re thinking.

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@wheeze_NL As far I understand, if they did custom Linux preinstalls for select distros, they would have the customer order and then put together the device with the latest distro version available and then pack it.

This would be time consuming and potentially pricier. But we wouldn't have to pay for Windows so it could balance out.

Several ways to go about it and can be done differently too but this is how I envision them doing it if they did.

SkaveRat 🐀 :verified:

@frameworkcomputer on the topic of keyboards:

How the heck did it happen, that on the german FW13 you translated one of the "ctrl" keys into "strg", but didn't translate the other?

It's such an interesting quirk, that I only noticed after over a year of daily usage

Laura

@skaverat @frameworkcomputer wow thanks for pointing that out now i see all of the weird mixed language stuff on there xD

Laura

@skaverat @frameworkcomputer
"fn lock"
"pg up"
"pg down"

"einfg"
"entf"
"pos"
"ende"

_L4NyrlfL1I0

@skaverat @frameworkcomputer I had to read this twice. Then I looked at my own Framework.

I have mine for around half a year now and didn't notice this.

Mark Brady

@frameworkcomputer You really know how to work the Mastodon crowd!

Darac Marjal

@cbleslie @frameworkcomputer Then you'd be almost able to replace Ctrl+Alt+Del with a Jim Bowen (Great+Super+Smashing)

Nick Largent

@frameworkcomputer Still waiting for my Dvorak option. Even better with a super key.

slembcke

@arack99 Interesting. Do you use a physical dvorak layout? I personally found it disastrous as just enough software doesn’t work with non-qwerty layouts, and I forgot where the qwerty keys were by touch within months. (I tried dvorak to fix wrist issues, and it worked immediately and *great* for 20 years now.)

Nick Largent

@slembcke Depends what you mean by physical.. I don't use hard wired for dvorak, just custom key caps where I can. I prefer using a software keymap so I can easily toggle to qwerty for a few things (CAD & gaming). I think I'm at just about 20 years in myself. I can still type qwerty when needed, just slower.

slembcke

@arack99 Right, my problem is I don’t remember qwerty anymore when I need to, but can touch type dvorak without keycaps. Though I’ll admit I did enjoy the funny looks 20 years ago when I did try rearranging my keycaps for a while. :)

Anachron :void:

@frameworkcomputer Oh come on! You guys only have to post one word to get hundreds of stars and countless boosts?

Seems like you've done it,- you're hyped. ;-)

Knut Branson

@frameworkcomputer is this like the old Turbo button that they used to put on PCs?

DJGummikuh

@frameworkcomputer as a german, since "alt" is german for "old" and "super" is also super in german, it is difficult for me to NOT read "super old" there xD

slembcke

@frameworkcomputer If only I would have waited 16 months… :p totally would have gotten one haha.

Havu :v_enby:

@frameworkcomputer the tux key on tuxedo laptops is even better :3

Ian

@frameworkcomputer I'd prefer if it had a Framework gear on it ;)

mos_8502 :verified:

@frameworkcomputer How about a keyboard with a compose key and control instead of caps lock next to the “A”?

Arazil

@frameworkcomputer I once waited an entire month for a product with a "super" key. 😉

Ozzelot :anarchy: :linux:

@prahou @frameworkcomputer I swear my X31 is French, I must check it for these glyphs

Anika :flag_transgender: :flag_pansexual: :autism:

@frameworkcomputer Definitely getting the keyboard layout with this once I'm able to get a Framework Laptop 13, and y'all can ship to South Africa!

Luna Lactea

@frameworkcomputer I would like to propose an ultra rare, foil, full holo "soup" key that will randomly be shipped in place of the "super" key

Luna Lactea

@fxk8y @frameworkcomputer Yeah but you don't know you're getting it, like buying a pack of cards. Laptops should be sold in giant card booster packs of ten so that Linux users can go "alright, good, three with Nvidia graphics. Next three have AMD graphics & Intel CPU, one is foil. Next three plain with extra CPU cores. Holy shit the last one is reverse foil with holo 'soup' key!"

taivlam

@frameworkcomputer Amazing! I'm so happy that I can order a Framework Laptop 13 with the International English Linux keyboard now.

This makes at least 3 companies that ship new production laptops with Super keys that ship easily in the USA: Framework, System76, and Purism.

ubinull

@frameworkcomputer I'd love to press that super button in Hungary. Please Framework...

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