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@res260 are you suggesting those with paywalls would remove them if they could just do user-tracking ads? That sounds bizarre.

14 July at 22:04 | Open on mastodon.social
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Émilio Gonzalez

@bagder I wouldnt presume, I don't know enough about the financial inner details of news outlets. But the fact that revenue fell drastically for news outlets in the last decades is, in my opinion, a much bigger problem than ads that track you (and I trust mozilla much more than google to do it while balancing privacy than google or meta) and it's a problem that can't be solely blamed on media themselves

14 July at 22:08 | Open on infosec.exchange
ocdtrekkie

@res260 @bagder All the ad companies are the ones stripping journalism of money. Google and Facebook both scrape the important bits of the news, and host them on their own site with their own ads, instead of linking people to the sites themselves so the news outlets see the ad revenue. The issue is the ad companies becoming so greedy they are now focused on cutting out the content creators from the deal.

14 July at 23:48 | Open on mastodon.social
Jack Yan (甄爵恩)
Don Marti

@jackyan @ocdtrekkie @res260 @bagder

The tracking is not there to identify the individual (the data doesn't have to be accurate) but to enable getting the highest-priced ad onto the cheapest possible site

Cross-context tracking puts higher value and lower value sites into competition to cut ad rates and drive up the % that goes to platforms—side effect is that much of the ad money ends up going to places that neither the advertiser nor the user would want to support

propublica.org/article/google-

@jackyan @ocdtrekkie @res260 @bagder

The tracking is not there to identify the individual (the data doesn't have to be accurate) but to enable getting the highest-priced ad onto the cheapest possible site

Cross-context tracking puts higher value and lower value sites into competition to cut ad rates and drive up the % that goes to platforms—side effect is that much of the ad money ends up going to places that neither the advertiser nor the user would want to support

15 July at 13:25 | Open on federate.social
Alexander The 1st

@ocdtrekkie @res260 @bagder I'm reminded of how the one change Apple made to how podcasts downloaded affected everyone's ad impressions [ youtu.be/DnktQrpXHrQ?si=BviNaj ].

Hank Green argues that it's good, even if it drastically hurts smaller podcasts, because it's more accurate ad impression numbers...but it means that smaller podcasts all of a sudden aren't meeting their "Ad view goals" immediately upon publishing.

16 July at 7:14 | Open on mstdn.ca
Dan Veditz

@bagder @res260

That happens already! There are sites that I see regularly with a "turn off your ad blocker or subscribe" pay wall. Sometimes they just want you to log in to a free account (so they can track you, and sell that to data brokers correlated by email)

14 July at 22:33 | Open on infosec.exchange
Aroop Roelofs :verified:

@bagder A popular Dutch news site has:
- A paywall for their "premium articles" (which constitutes most of their articles).
- Tracking as-is (CDN resources + Google analytics).
- Tracking ads.

@res260

14 July at 22:57 | Open on social.linux.pizza
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