Mac dev ecosystem complaining

Tried to do some dev work on my 2015 Mac laptop that I haven't used in ~1 year and it turns out that homebrew basically refuses to update stuff until I update the OS and like... no, this laptop still basically functions and I am not going to saddle it with a new, scary OS version that will probably make everything run worse

Although this reddit post claims otherwise!

https://www.reddit.com/r/mac/comments/rx61cs/monterey_121_on_mid2015_macbook_pro/

Anyone have an old MBP running new MacOS w/ thoughts to share?

Like 7 May 2022 at 15:46 | Open on friend.camp

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christa

Mac dev ecosystem complaining

@darius I was going to say "my mac is 2013 and running big sur and it's fine for dev" (unless someone wants me to run docker) and now I realized this is not the 'new' operating system. so I'm not sure if my feedback is helpful

7 May 2022 at 15:50 | Open on friend.camp

Darius Kazemi

Mac dev ecosystem complaining

@christa Do you use homebrew? Because that's my main pain point with the old OSes, homebrew just kind of refuses to do its thing

7 May 2022 at 15:51 | Open on friend.camp

christa

Mac dev ecosystem complaining

@darius hm I do! but I don't know if I've updated it in a bit, even though I've been doing consistent development on the rails forum. let me try right now

7 May 2022 at 15:52 | Open on friend.camp

Darius Kazemi

Mac dev ecosystem complaining

@christa oh god no don't break your setup

7 May 2022 at 15:52 | Open on friend.camp

christa

Mac dev ecosystem complaining

@darius hah by "let me try" I mean, let me look at this for some amount of time before trying anything that might be scary

7 May 2022 at 15:52 | Open on friend.camp

Mac dev ecosystem complaining

@darius @christa this is what i ran into with my 2013 macbook trying to do a new build of playscii late last year. after hella upgrading & arm-twisting i got a build that ran on newer intel macs but a universal build that also runs on M1s still a purely theoretical possibility. def left me with the feeling that nothing can stand against apple's forced march of its devs and that they just don't want me to support their OS with my free software.

7 May 2022 at 16:04 | Open on mastodon.social

mikael

Mac dev ecosystem complaining

@darius 2015 MacBook Air with Mojave and Homebrew. It complains but I believe I was able to update packages, but they has to be built (takes time).

7 May 2022 at 15:55 | Open on merveilles.town

David Chartier

Mac dev ecosystem complaining

@darius From what I’ve heard, Apple’s done a decent job of supporting older devices and keeping them performing reasonably well. I *think* they’ve started drawing better lines in terms of which features won’t work on older machines due to performance or a lack of tech inside and just leaving those features off.

7 May 2022 at 16:03 | Open on toot.cafe

𝕒𝕟𝕥𝕙𝕠𝕟𝕪

Mac dev ecosystem complaining

@darius My daily is a 2016 MBP (2.7GHz i7, 16GB RAM, Radeon 460) running macOS 12.3.1. I haven't noticed any performance issues, but I've always stayed current and probably wouldn't notice gradual degradation. Still, I'm happy enough that I haven't felt a need for a new machine.

For science, I did a brew update && brew upgrade this morning -- 53 formulae and 1 cask without issue.

7 May 2022 at 16:49 | Open on bud.camp

doctor garbage expert

Mac dev ecosystem complaining

@darius i've got monterey on my non-work 2016 macbook pro, it's fine! just used brew last night, also fine, maybe slow but it always feels slow to me. sometimes it's real mad at me (usually the fault of docker) but mostly it's fine. also i run civ vi on it when i'm in full goblin mode and it "works"