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Unfortunately, with the way these platforms were made and what they encourage (short messages, "in-the-moment" attitude towards posts, which awards low-effort posting), makes them for the most part characterized by being disposable, consumption oriented and demanding one's attention at all times (which is what these social networks want to stay relevant).
Any well thought out post (which is longer on average) will be flooded/overrun in the timeline by a ton of low-effort posts, because barely anybody takes time to read anything that goes beyond the post's visual scope and has a cut saying "Read more". TL;DR applies very much so on these social networks.
Microblogging not just is built in a specific way, it attracts specfic kind of audience.
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 @BigFoxBoss Dunno, Pixelfed mostly federates okay. I'm toying with idea of making something like Livejournal or rather Liveinternet for Fedi. Someone should just go out and do it. @drq @iliazeus @mittorn At least they advertise themselves as "Blog first". Wordpress has an AP plugin too. There are not much platforms which would qualfy as actual blogs/diaries ala Livejournal/Liveinternet. @BigFoxBoss It does, but it's so stripped of features, it doesn't even support comments and interactions. And those *are* important. There also was Plume, but it was... weird. It certainly wasn't effective. I'm aware of the Wordpress plugin, but Wordpress is such a legacy at this point, and much of their plugins have very little to do with the software's intended purpose. They should have introduced the federation earlier, It may have saved it as a blogging platform. @BigFoxBoss I think, it's *actually* lack of federation that did it in. What's the point writing a standalone blog, when nobody can comment on it without registering (which nobody will)? I killed mine with the same motivation, having written for it for 5 years or so. And there were some fucking elaborate posts in there, what a waste. @BigFoxBoss My point is not longform blogging being not easily digestible. My point is standalone infrastructure being obtuse and not easily interactable without federation, there's no community. As for "everything became social network", well... The first proper social network was Livejournal - there were friend subscriptions in there, as the prominent feature. And it was longform blogging platform, also the first one. So, always has been. @BigFoxBoss But what if your main niche is just you and your homies? It's VERY hard to convince people to register on your website so they could interact with just your and their posts, even if they're your friends. @BigFoxBoss I'm not an imbecile, I know what instant messaging is, and I remember ICQ. I had a 6-digit number. I'm talking strictly about social blogging. Only that. Not other platforms/protocols/whatever. Social networking/social blogging is easy to do when you're on the same website, and nigh impossible to do if you're standalone. Unless there's federation. Then it's not as easy as the same website, but suddenly - it's doable. @BigFoxBoss Centralization around Disqus notwithstanding, yeeah, kinda. It's a crawl compared to what we have with Fedi now, though, when you just click "follow" and boom, subscribed. @drq @iliazeus @mittorn Also, I heard that tumblr is integrating with AP, so they may join fedi, but no further news on that yet still. @BigFoxBoss They've been promising this for quite a while now. |
@BigFoxBoss the Fediverse also doesn't end with microblogging. It's much more general.
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