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I am making a point that social blogging you speak of existed on standalone stuff through some means, like, comment hostng services.
Well, somehow people did gain a following before mainstream social networks and microblogging happened.
@BigFoxBoss Centralization around Disqus notwithstanding, yeeah, kinda. It's a crawl compared to what we have with Fedi now, though, when you just click "follow" and boom, subscribed.
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and then the entire feed grows into something unmanageable or take hours to scroll through, which noone except terminally online people can afford.
Said subscriber/follower might just miss things because feed is flooded with memes or whatever happened during the day to someone else who is terminally online babbling about what they did or constantly reblog whatever they saw on a federated timeline. Muting everytime is also kind of annoying, maybe you'd end up missing something again.
And that "missing out" thing is one more can of worms of social networks that builds addiction and it's a whole other topic.
Keeping stuff separate might be more manageable to followers who might just want blogs, for instance, not a constant flood of whatever microblogging stuff is being reblogged/posted
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and then the entire feed grows into something unmanageable or take hours to scroll through, which noone except terminally online people can afford.
Said subscriber/follower might just miss things because feed is flooded with memes or whatever happened during the day to someone else who is terminally online babbling about what they did or constantly reblog whatever they saw...
@drq@iliazeus@mittorn Also, I heard that tumblr is integrating with AP, so they may join fedi, but no further news on that yet still.
It's a tumbleblog though, something in the middle between a blog and microblog.
I am not even sure how they would even federate and keep formatting intact, but we'll see I guess.
@drq@BigFoxBoss@iliazeus Even if do normal blogging, mastodon is not good idea.
It does not even accept formatting.
It is possible to implement normal blogs with AP by showing Summary text as post text and blog post data in some other field or even like attachment. Summary should include link to static blog viewer for unsupported instances/frontends and suppoered instances/frontends should implement separate blog interface which only will show blog post and open when expanding blog data. Maybe this similar to vk blogs. This will allow have normal blogging and let users not skip other blog posts because blog posts whill be shown in separate timeline in blog interface.
How blog interface should look? Imagine any news site, which want to keep user reading it as long as possible and remove all ads and.
Also, comments may be shared with microblog interface (which should only show summary for main post).
Also, it is possible to add reply with limited text-based representation of blog post for non-supporting instances or clients. That would not appear in timeline, but would be shown in blog post as first reply.
Why blog post should be separate entity? Because we need support formatting, tables, right-placed attachments (which should federate as well). And of course not limit by attachment entities. For comments, microblog is still ok, it can also fit in blog interface like comments block.
@drq@BigFoxBoss@iliazeus Even if do normal blogging, mastodon is not good idea.
It does not even accept formatting.
It is possible to implement normal blogs with AP by showing Summary text as post text and blog post data in some other field or even like attachment. Summary should include link to static blog viewer for unsupported instances/frontends and suppoered instances/frontends should implement...
@BigFoxBoss Centralization around Disqus notwithstanding, yeeah, kinda. It's a crawl compared to what we have with Fedi now, though, when you just click "follow" and boom, subscribed.
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