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Hänzi Pōtter

@Setok @mhoye I have the same feeling (something spooked automakers). #Mercedes, #BMW, #vw are all cutting back their full electrical plans. This happened after the gov in #germany abrubtly stopped #ev subsidiary. At the same time, coordinated act against #china #ev exports

29 May at 6:05 | Wall-to-wall | Open on mastodon.world
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sleepy62

@hszakher @Setok @mhoye Cant help thinking that our good friends in the powerful fossil fuel lobby are doing whatever they can to sew FUD about EVs. In Canada we saw an uptick in EV FUD articles in the press after the Feds introduces the 2035 targets.

29 May at 6:25 | Open on social.vivaldi.net
Hänzi Pōtter

@sleepy62 @Setok @mhoye that's one way, the other is the realization of how much money is needed to upgrade the power grid...etc if the #ev adoption trend continued and decided to slow things down

29 May at 6:40 | Open on mastodon.world
Kristoffer Lawson

@hszakher @sleepy62 @mhoye I’m not sure what the reality is there but in Finland almost nothing extraordinary needs to be done to the grid to accommodate EVs. The cars just don’t need that much extra, compared to everything else and my understanding is that concern is overblown.

29 May at 7:28 | Open on attractive.space
Hänzi Pōtter

@Setok @sleepy62 @mhoye it depends on the country. in #Germany, there're periodic house renovation requirements, so houses have modern electrical wiring capable of 11kw charging units without permission. but if you want 22kw unit, you have to get a permission from grid operators to ensure that 1) your house wiring can handle, 2) the grid itself can handle the load. then you have the issue with weight of EV vs ICE and the impact of that on certain infrastructure like bridges and old roads ...etc

29 May at 7:48 | Open on mastodon.world
Kristoffer Lawson

@hszakher @sleepy62 @mhoye most people overestimate their charging needs. We went months with two EVs and just regular suko plugs. Very rarely was that not enough to be fully charged in the morning (most people don’t drive to empty every day). From what I read, the impact of weight increase is quite minimal in general but there may be some car parks that need to consider.

29 May at 8:12 | Open on attractive.space
Hänzi Pōtter

@sleepy62 @Setok @mhoye speaking of fuel lobby, this is just in tagesschau.de/wirtschaft/verbr
climate-friendly #diesel that is 15c to 20c more expensive than "traditional"diesel. I expect in the coming few years a roll back on the EU total ban of ICE, making it for "pure ICE" while allowing plug-in hybrids IF using HVO

From now on, the new diesel fuel HVO100 is approved at the gas stations. Although the climate balance is significantly better than with conventional diesel, the new fuel also costs more. From today, the synthetic diesel fuel HVO100 may be sold freely. At the gas stations, the fuel suitable for many diesel vehicles is marketed with the addition of XTL. The ADAC expects the new fuel to be gradually introduced at the gas stations. HVO diesel can be produced, for example, from vegetable oils, vegetable and animal fats or waste materials consisting of them. The emission of fine dust, particles and nitrogen oxide is therefore significantly lower. HVO stands for Hydrotreated Vegetable Oil - hydrogenated, i.e. hydrogen-treated vegetable oil. XTL stands for the conversion of biomass, gas and other energy sources ("X") "to liquid" into liquid fuel.
29 May at 8:41 | Open on mastodon.world
Kristoffer Lawson

@hszakher @sleepy62 @mhoye I'd argue the legislation should be worded to not specify technology, just that it most be CO2 neutral. How it achieves that doesn't really matter.

Though perhaps that is how it's worded, I'm not sure.

Though EVs do have benefits beyond that which I personally wouldn't want to give up.

29 May at 10:27 | Open on attractive.space
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