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SigmundFreudsBartender

@ErikUden Since there is no official Palestinian state, there is no official Palestinian citizenship. That makes ist more complex.

28 May at 15:30 | Wall-to-wall | Open on nerdculture.de
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Rejin

@sfb @ErikUden So does it assume only state based groups should be free? I wonder then how it would answer "do women deserve to be free" or "do children deserve to be free?"

28 May at 15:36 | Open on masto.nyc
Uraael
Iwillyeah

@sfb @ErikUden do Muslims deserve to be free? Do indigenous Americans deserve to be free? Do women deserve to be free?

28 May at 15:47 | Open on mastodon.ie
imdat celeste :v_tg: :v_nb: :v_genderfluid: [witchzard]

@sfb @ErikUden Whether someone deserves to be free requires a state and citizenship? Didn't know that... whoa, you live and you learn /s

28 May at 16:21 | Open on tau-ceti.space
SigmundFreudsBartender

@ics @ErikUden Well, it's the state of the world, that only states can ensure human rights. And since there is no Palestine it makes it complicated to say who is a Palestinian.

28 May at 16:32 | Open on nerdculture.de
imdat celeste :v_tg: :v_nb: :v_genderfluid: [witchzard]

@sfb @ErikUden No, the question is not who can ensure human rights! Can't you read it?

The question was "Do Palestinians deserve to be free?" - This is a very, very, frigginly easy question to answer. Do they DESERVE to be free? Yes or No? Very easy, there is no "how can it be ensured", there is no "who can ensure it", the question is fucking easy: DO THEY DESERVE TO BE FREE?

Sheesh, WT-??

28 May at 16:37 | Open on tau-ceti.space
SigmundFreudsBartender

@ics @ErikUden It's not so easy because what a Palestinian is, is quite unsure.

Most Palestinians are officially stateless.

28 May at 16:40 | Open on nerdculture.de
Nour (aka Autistic Enby) 🏳️‍⚧️

@sfb @ics @ErikUden I'll make it easier for you: do humans deserve to be free?

28 May at 16:43 | Open on hachyderm.io
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Seb

@sfb @ics @ErikUden Then logic is not being applied properly: UN declaration of human rights articles 2 and 3 are unequivocal and, unless they are deprecated or superseded, form the basis of any answer to this question. To apply different answers depending on who the person is or where they come from is entirely against these principles.

28 May at 18:34 | Open on toot.community
SigmundFreudsBartender

@seb321 @ics @ErikUden true but factually only states enforce human rights. Hannah Arnedt has made this argument and unfortunately we haven't evolved any further.

28 May at 22:00 | Open on nerdculture.de
Seb

@sfb @ics @ErikUden Bollocks do they. What is Amnesty International then? What are UN peacekeepers? States enforce state power.

28 May at 22:15 | Open on toot.community
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@sfb @ics @ErikUden

What did Ireland and Spain and Norway recognize then?

Just because Zion Europe division doesnt, doesnt make it so

28 May at 16:46 | Open on kolektiva.social
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@sfb @ErikUden What PRECISELY did Norway Spain and Ireland recognize then to the howls of Likud?

28 May at 16:45 | Open on kolektiva.social
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