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SigmundFreudsBartender

@ics @ErikUden Well, it's the state of the world, that only states can ensure human rights. And since there is no Palestine it makes it complicated to say who is a Palestinian.

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imdat celeste :v_tg: :v_nb: :v_genderfluid: [witchzard]

@sfb @ErikUden No, the question is not who can ensure human rights! Can't you read it?

The question was "Do Palestinians deserve to be free?" - This is a very, very, frigginly easy question to answer. Do they DESERVE to be free? Yes or No? Very easy, there is no "how can it be ensured", there is no "who can ensure it", the question is fucking easy: DO THEY DESERVE TO BE FREE?

Sheesh, WT-??

SigmundFreudsBartender

@ics @ErikUden It's not so easy because what a Palestinian is, is quite unsure.

Most Palestinians are officially stateless.

Nour (aka Autistic Enby) 🏳️‍⚧️

@sfb @ics @ErikUden I'll make it easier for you: do humans deserve to be free?

Seb

@sfb @ics @ErikUden Then logic is not being applied properly: UN declaration of human rights articles 2 and 3 are unequivocal and, unless they are deprecated or superseded, form the basis of any answer to this question. To apply different answers depending on who the person is or where they come from is entirely against these principles.

SigmundFreudsBartender

@seb321 @ics @ErikUden true but factually only states enforce human rights. Hannah Arnedt has made this argument and unfortunately we haven't evolved any further.

Seb

@sfb @ics @ErikUden Bollocks do they. What is Amnesty International then? What are UN peacekeepers? States enforce state power.

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@sfb @ics @ErikUden

What did Ireland and Spain and Norway recognize then?

Just because Zion Europe division doesnt, doesnt make it so

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