@eevee I think back on birdsite I have a tweet wondering how many years it'll be before Wayland will be ready for even 50% of experienced users to swap over to, let alone good enough to use as default everywhere

That tweet is from 2012

Your experience here isn't that much worse than the last few times I've (deliberately) tried it, yet KDE has the 2nd best support for it after GNOME last I checked

(and before anyone jumps in, yes, some attempts were on nvidia, but most recently was with an amd card, and I've even tried with integrated graphics on an entirely different machine - all have had their problems)

Like, graphics stuff is hard, let alone redesigning a new protocol from ground up and trying to manage migration, backwards compat via xwayland, proprietary driver blobs...I get that

Still, makes me wonder where on earth all the claims it's basically ready to be pushed as default everywhere keep coming from - I've never had any hardware combination that's played nice with it and even if you get it stable, there's then plenty of software that even if they have wayland support or can be run in xwayland still have major UX issues