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eevee 🦊

finally upgraded to kde 6, which defaulted to a wayland session, giving me my very first wayland experience: crashing back to the login screen without even making it far enough to draw wallpaper

21 May at 17:26 | Open on queer.party
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goat

@eevee I wanted to give the ol' "let's see if the Linux desktop experience is viable for me" another try on the weekend and immediately failed at "every window is flickering" among other issues, precisely because the nvidia driver is apparently very broken with Wayland and the only workaround is going back to X, which... Plasma 6 dropped. Oh well, maybe in another year.

21 May at 17:37 | Open on dogno.se
eevee 🦊

@goat plasma 6 didn't drop it, i'm in X right now

21 May at 17:47 | Open on queer.party
goat

@eevee oh you're right, thanks! Not sure how my googling failed me there, had to install plasma-workspace-x11 on fedora 40 since it doesn't come with it. It's a little choppy now for some reason but no more flickering

21 May at 18:03 | Open on dogno.se
neuro_flamee
@goat @eevee I think nvidia beta driver that came out today is supposed to be the one to finally fix it
21 May at 19:04 | Open on neuro.cooking
nina

@eevee last time I tried kde wayland session it wasn't very stable but i figured they had fixed it by now...

meanwhile running gnome on wayland for like 4 years at this point without apparent issues, but... the x session is wonky there instead

21 May at 17:55 | Open on blahaj.social
Claire

@eevee I think back on birdsite I have a tweet wondering how many years it'll be before Wayland will be ready for even 50% of experienced users to swap over to, let alone good enough to use as default everywhere

That tweet is from 2012

Your experience here isn't that much worse than the last few times I've (deliberately) tried it, yet KDE has the 2nd best support for it after GNOME last I checked

(and before anyone jumps in, yes, some attempts were on nvidia, but most recently was with an amd card, and I've even tried with integrated graphics on an entirely different machine - all have had their problems)

Like, graphics stuff is hard, let alone redesigning a new protocol from ground up and trying to manage migration, backwards compat via xwayland, proprietary driver blobs...I get that

Still, makes me wonder where on earth all the claims it's basically ready to be pushed as default everywhere keep coming from - I've never had any hardware combination that's played nice with it and even if you get it stable, there's then plenty of software that even if they have wayland support or can be run in xwayland still have major UX issues

@eevee I think back on birdsite I have a tweet wondering how many years it'll be before Wayland will be ready for even 50% of experienced users to swap over to, let alone good enough to use as default everywhere

That tweet is from 2012

Your experience here isn't that much worse than the last few times I've (deliberately) tried it, yet KDE has the 2nd best support for it after GNOME last I checked

21 May at 18:03 | Open on social.treehouse.systems
lime!

@hokaze @eevee crypto, llms, wayland
same tactics

21 May at 18:52 | Open on hachyderm.io
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