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 @molly0xfff No question this could be a violation of privacy. But that violation occurs only if the data is removed from the device. There are amazing potential scenarios with this data, with the very important caveat that it doesn't escape the machine. However I completely understand that people won't trust that this caveat holds. It's just unfortunate that we can't have a discussion of how much potential is indeed possible. But knee jerk reactions will never allow this discussion to happen. 15 comments
@scottjenson @molly0xfff Thank god there's no way for data on my machine to leave my machine without me knowing about it. There are no means people can access my machine without my consent. This service is completely safe and absolutely nothing can go wrong with an unfiltered log of my passwords and financial data being stored on my machine. Think of the potential. @TheEntity @molly0xfff 😀 I wanted to make that point as well but felt it wouldn't fit @kentpitman i read this three times and have no idea what you're saying or how it's a reply to me Probably because I thought your response was sarcasm, not literal. :) Most people are in the opposite position, where there are tons of ways their data can leave their machine and they never know. Given current tech, even if an LLM were armed with my financial data, the present state of the art might not be able to actually regurgitate it. It seems terrible with math. But that can't hold. I hope that clarifies it. If not, well, just ignore me. :) @kentpitman Here's a crazy idea: What if it wasn't an LLM getting your financial data off the Windows 11 Spyware App, but just some guy, who can read it and understand it and know how to use it to steal your shit. Name a product where people had to be forced to use it to realize how amazing it was. The built in assumption is that product designers are these amazing geniuses and the end users are dummies. In fact AI products are terrible and people don't want to use them because they don't work as advertised.  'Remove'? Reading is sufficient to copy. How it's exfiltrated is left as an exercise for the reader. Rsync would be my favourite, but hiding it in noise is fine. I once had to point out to a corporate lawyer and a senior exec that if data hosted in Europe could be read on a screen in India then the data had been exported. It still has to be explained. @scottjenson @molly0xfff IMO if you're trusting your computer to remember what you did, you've already lost The Game. See? @borstradamus @scottjenson @molly0xfff |
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@scottjenson @molly0xfff A likely scenario would be that it happens both ways. Perhaps first someone "innovates" sucking up too much personal data, but certainly later there will be an effort to do it all in a contained way. Both may be "successful."
The caution of the IoT age might be that most people will give up that privacy readily.