Gregory's ServerI'm requesting that my questions and answers be permanently deleted under GDPR.
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  @Orb2069 @felipe @ben This is something I've thought about ever since I started here. It's great that people here take their time to make the web better for disabled people. But unfortunately, high-quality image descriptions are a gift to AI companies training text-to-image models. There is no act of altruism these assholes will not exploit.  @ben Stack Overflow has already been monetizing your answers with ads for years. If โused for profitโ is your main complaint, youโre a little late. @mighty_orbot @ben @mighty_orbot @ben The argument isn't about profit, which is pretty clearly outlined. OpenAI's explicit and ultimate intent is to replace people and in the meantime it's spitting out garbage information.  @andrewfelix @mighty_orbot @ben @ben Why do people care if someone like me gets your excellent answer to a coding question by typing my error message into Google (forwarding to SO) or into ChatGPT? In neither situation were you getting paid. In both situations the middle man makes a buck. In both situations Iโm thankful you spent time helping me. Is it that with ChatGPT I donโt know who to thank? @hunterhacker @ben it's that chatgpt is fundamentally built off copyright infringement and theft. even if in this situation there's no profit being taken, in other situations there absolutely is. openai is fundamentally scummy, and it's good to push back if you can. @hunterhacker @ben with ChatGPT the answer gets turned into atoms and reconstructed, often with errors. It's not showing anyone's answer, it's showing a slop that approximates what it thinks looks most correct. You have no one to thank, no one to correct, and ChatGPT couldn't start to tell you where the answer came from even if it was 99% from one person. @nus @hunterhacker @ben for a bonus, it's also burning the planet to tell you that mess of a wrong answer too @hunterhacker @ben it's also just your own writing and you should be able to choose what happens to it. this forces users to contribute to training data even if they don't want to, you can't opt-out. @ben Isnโt that common knowledge? They are already as soon as they appear on for example Google Search.. @ben lawsuit! Lawsuit! Lawsuit! "Terms can change without notice" etc clauses are often unenforceable. People should class-action these predatory scrapers. I BET m$ has used data they did not have rights to for training. Errbody should sue. Sue sue sue. "AI" is the providence of mankind, not some rich douche  @sortius @tembryglint @cykonot @ben Prosecutors don't. But the prosecuting *side* has to pay their lawyers during those years of lawsuits. It's not cheap.   @cykonot in the EU training models on any public data is officially legal. That was an unintended effect of keeping databases legal. I don't think this is going to work. a) You gave them a license to use your answers. It is not revokable. b) You *can* and *should* ask to be disassociated from your answers. AFAIK, this satisfies any GDPR requirements. (If you don't think so, please explain.) Source: I used to be deeply involved in the moderation on that site before the enshittification made me quit some years back.  That said the licence is a CC license, correct? Use of that data to train an AI model would remove the attribution that's required; though I'm sadly aware that big tech doesn't seem to care about that and the courts haven't yet stopped them. :P  @amin @yourautisticlife @ben Exactly. Incorporation into LLM infringes basically every single FOSS license except full PD/CC0. Due to lack of attribution or preservation of copyright notice.  @dalias @amin @yourautisticlife @ben  @yourautisticlife @ben but the thing we want in the most basic FOSS licences is attributionโฆ  @ben GDPR does not apply here since its not personal data. It's technical data.    @ben I was literally gonna alk what about GDPR. Hope they're forced to delete it. |
It's just a reminder that anything you post on any of these platforms can and will be used for profit. It's just a matter of time until all your messages on Discord, Twitter etc. are scraped, fed into a model and sold back to you.