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Jason Hunter

@ben Why do people care if someone like me gets your excellent answer to a coding question by typing my error message into Google (forwarding to SO) or into ChatGPT?

In neither situation were you getting paid. In both situations the middle man makes a buck. In both situations I’m thankful you spent time helping me.

Is it that with ChatGPT I don’t know who to thank?

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matty matty bang bang

@hunterhacker @ben it's that chatgpt is fundamentally built off copyright infringement and theft. even if in this situation there's no profit being taken, in other situations there absolutely is. openai is fundamentally scummy, and it's good to push back if you can.

Bornach

@hunterhacker
@wuppy @ben
Yup. OpenAI refuses to reveal what was in their training data.
You may be thankful for an answer to a question but thankful to whom? ChatGPT generates answers claiming it as its own creation and OpenAI gets the credit. At least pre-2023 search engines directed you to the original source.

When asked to create a new game that never existed before, ChatGPT regurgited someone else's game idea and gave it a different name.

gizmodo.com/chatgpt-copy-sumpl

@hunterhacker
@wuppy @ben
Yup. OpenAI refuses to reveal what was in their training data.
You may be thankful for an answer to a question but thankful to whom? ChatGPT generates answers claiming it as its own creation and OpenAI gets the credit. At least pre-2023 search engines directed you to the original source.

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@hunterhacker @ben with ChatGPT the answer gets turned into atoms and reconstructed, often with errors. It's not showing anyone's answer, it's showing a slop that approximates what it thinks looks most correct.

You have no one to thank, no one to correct, and ChatGPT couldn't start to tell you where the answer came from even if it was 99% from one person.

Tristan Colgate-McFarlane

@nus @hunterhacker @ben for a bonus, it's also burning the planet to tell you that mess of a wrong answer too

matty matty bang bang

@hunterhacker @ben it's also just your own writing and you should be able to choose what happens to it. this forces users to contribute to training data even if they don't want to, you can't opt-out.

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