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Nelson Chu Pavlosky

I hired a landscape designer and he delivered this #LandscapeDesign. It looks good, but somehow communication broke down and they included a lot of non-native plants when I thought I was clear I wanted native plants. If they include obvious introduced plants, how can I trust they'll source plants that meet my less visible criteria, like straight species / open pollinated & local ecotype? So I guess I have to modify and implement it myself, based on what native plants I can source.

Any feedback?

A hand-drawn landscape sketch on graph paper. A small upper garden is dominated by blackberries on trellises, with strawberries underneath. A larger lower level features a stone path with a yard tree and perennials in the back, and shrubs in the front.

On the side is a key for abbreviations of plant names used in the plan: 
Service berry
Dwarf black berry 
Blueberry species
Mahonia nervosa
Strawberry
Lavender
Oregano 
Marjoram 
Rosemary
Lemon thyme
Golden oregano
5 comments
Megan Lynch (she/her)

@skyfaller Did you ask them to create an edible landscape? Because that's what stands out to me about the choices.

It may be they thought "natives except for edibles, which for most of us are non-native species".

In any case, to create an equivalent edible landscape with natives, you'll need to research not just their needs (so they can be grouped together by similar needs), but also which complement one another, and bring in what kind of pollinators/pests, etc.

Nelson Chu Pavlosky

@meganL Yeah I did say my dream was a permaculture forest, but (a) I was explicit that serving the wildlife was top priority, food for myself was second, and (b) I talked at great length about my ideas for native edibles, including ordering seeds for native edibles from the Experimental Farm Network. Like, good luck stopping me once I start info dumping. It felt like they must have tuned me out at some point.

Thank you for mentioning researching plant needs/synergies! Any sources you'd suggest?

Megan Lynch (she/her)

@skyfaller I wish I knew. Last time i was trying to do something like this was 2004 and if I could program, I'd have made a program for it and gone into business.

Perhaps a color-coded set of info cards (physical, so you can easily shuffle) for each plant choice would help you figure out the best matches. [a color for sun amt; water needs, soil type, pH, etc]

I had similar problems with the landscaper not listening and I ended up having to modify stuff myself as well.

Oreo Teeth

@skyfaller I've no direct experience but I've heard good things about Edge of the Woods plant nursery in Orefield for native PA plants.

Icarosity

@skyfaller When you say native do you mean to your area of PA, to the mid-Atlantic and Northeast? Eastern half of North America? People use this term to mean different things.

I agree that if you want straight species and local ecotypes you’ll probably have to get them yourself. I would trust very few people to understand those concepts well enough to do what you want. People think they know what you mean but the idea in their heads is different from yours.

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