Gregory's Server@TuxOnBike @hszakher @alb_004 @pixelfed
This kills my interest in #Loops. People must remain the algorithm, it's the only way to prevent enclosure.
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 @LordofCandy @TuxOnBike @hszakher @alb_004 @pixelfed I don’t join servers but follow people and organizations. Proprietary algorithms locked to a specific server is an enclosure. Whoever joins it is now dependent on its properties and loses portability. I would caution per server algorithms are not particularly liberating. @GhostOnTheHalfShell @TuxOnBike @hszakher @alb_004 @pixelfed but can’t we say that about everything here? Your host is choosing what servers are going to be federated from, that’s just an enclosure as well. Which is why my first mention was run your own. You can have that control. Therefore you have the full gamut of options, like we expect here. @LordofCandy @TuxOnBike @hszakher @alb_004 @pixelfed I recommend looking up what enclosure means. Federation is a matter of simple inspection. People can see the federation graph. Moving house doesn’t entail a loss of function a per platform proprietary bot curator creates. This is why I won’t opt in for it. Plus I don’t sample short content much. @GhostOnTheHalfShell @TuxOnBike @hszakher @alb_004 @pixelfed sorry I thought you meant more walled gardens or hidden content. Afaik if you are on a defederated server you’ll never see or hear content outside of that. Can you send a helpful link on enclosure because I’ve done a few vectors of search and am not finding relevance. @LordofCandy @TuxOnBike @hszakher @alb_004 @pixelfed What forced the peasants off the commons by making the commons private property. Today, this goes both ways. Proprietary systems present limitations (freedom of movement etc) and options for abuse. Added into the mix is a healthy dose of distaste for machine curated content. @GhostOnTheHalfShell this is wrong. You’re trying to make it sound nice as it’s what you agree with. User data & identity are tethered to an instance. Per instance can very much vary as far as functionality so that statement is a fallacy, please do not make things up to fit your narrative. Hmmm, people move ship with some regularity within the fediverse. This is the essence of a commons. My basic thesis is that an algorithm in a server is intrinsically different from the algorithm in people’s heads. Even as people move servers the network and the network investment they build up goes with them. People as the basic algorithm is not in the server. It’s in each person’s heads. This is why I choose to avoid algorithm curated platforms. |
@GhostOnTheHalfShell @TuxOnBike @hszakher @alb_004 @pixelfed how does that kill your interest if every server has control of it? Make an instance without one. Join one without one. Or join one that facilitates your interests. Kind of a huge gradient there to enjoy whereas none other have that flexibility. I enjoy being able to skim those I follow but I also acknowledge that I don’t always find new things to explore. 🍻