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Kit Malone

@GreenFire I don't buy it.

It's def inconvenient timing, but I've organized alongside plenty of pro-Palestinian organizers over the years, and of course they are going to be highly active in this moment.

Do I think Russian disinfo actor might be using this moment as a wedge to destabilize the election? Sure. But the Palestinian liberation movement isn't astroturf. It's been simmering for years, waiting for its moment.

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Kevin Leecaster

@thekitmalone
I think that Gavin McInnes' involvement along with Russia, Iran, and their proxies promoting these anti-USA protests provides significant support that they're being used as useful idiots. I just hope that everyone will consider which side their actions are helping is all.

Lucy B

@GreenFire @thekitmalone
I have not seen any credible reporting of specific anti US protests, but rather protesting policy. I think that the protests have been effective in changing Biden’s handling of Israel, in a better direction. I’m a solid Biden voter by what I view as necessity, but I will not rubber stamp all of his actions.

mikefordays

@GreenFire
Anti-US? Should we be celebrating our tax dollars funding Israel's genocide instead? It blows my mind that you can look at what is happening and blame it on Russian disinfo. Believe it or not, a lot people really dislike genocide. And fuck Gavin McInnes. He'd get his Nazi ass kicked if he showed up to any of these protests.

@thekitmalone

Ivey Janette McClelland

@thekitmalone @GreenFire That's exactly what it is. Some of the protesters at USC were far-right groups infiltrating to push their own divisive agenda. And to sow civil war. That's probably why LAPD was so heavy-handed towards the REAL protesters. Those false actors did the same thing in the 2020 protests. And even during the 1992 uprising that surrounded the campus.

Kevin Leecaster

@IveyJanette @thekitmalone
@lucybeahere Russian agents’ use of Facebook went far beyond targeted advertising, using Facebook pages and accounts to plan dozens of politically divisive marches, protests, and rallies. Russian-linked “social-media agitators” piggybacked off of the emotionally charged aftermath of shootings in Minneapolis and Dallas in 2016, hosting a rally in support of Philando Castile and a “Blue Lives Matter” protest.
vanityfair.com/news/2017/10/ho

@IveyJanette @thekitmalone
@lucybeahere Russian agents’ use of Facebook went far beyond targeted advertising, using Facebook pages and accounts to plan dozens of politically divisive marches, protests, and rallies. Russian-linked “social-media agitators” piggybacked off of the emotionally charged aftermath of shootings in Minneapolis and Dallas in 2016, hosting a rally in support of Philando Castile and a “Blue Lives Matter” protest.
vanityfair.com/news/2017/10/ho

Lucy B

@GreenFire @IveyJanette @thekitmalone
This is definitely a concern. But I refuse to accept that because of this, protest is no longer a legitimate means of expression. Because that is the endgame. To make protest illegal, to make voting seem illegitimate, to make people feel hopeless. It more important than ever that we are educated and thoughtful participants in the political sphere, that we don’t make assumptions until information is confirmed from trusted sources.

Kevin Leecaster

@lucybeahere @IveyJanette @thekitmalone
If you know me than you know that I am a strong advocate for protest and corporal politicking in general. I just think that time, effort, and thought should go into in order to make it effective protesting rather than rushing in and end up doing harm to the cause.

That is my main point.

Lucy B

@GreenFire
I do think we often agree, as I see your posts frequently! Good to be able to talk it out without it devolving like it’s Twitter.

Ivey Janette McClelland

@GreenFire @lucybeahere @thekitmalone I agree. I remember walking with my grandma in a picket line outside the department stores on Broadway in the early 60's in downtown LA. When I was an infant. The stores integrated not long afterwards. I walked the picket line with my mom multiple times during the grape boycotts and when her union went on strike against the big hotels. My cousins participated in the Eastside Blowouts of 1968. Protesting gets voices heard.

Ivey Janette McClelland

@lucybeahere @GreenFire @thekitmalone That's also why so many disaffected communities choose to violently take to the streets instead of voting or protesting. We've seen it time and time again.

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