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Benjamin Brood

download everything. that service is going to die. be your own librarian.

10 April at 21:52 | Open on zirk.us
60 comments
hazelnot :yell:

@brood unfortunately storage space costs money and is kind of a continuous investment cause of bit rot and SSD write limits

21 April at 12:33 | Open on sunbeam.city
Benjamin Brood

@hazelnot its effort no doubt. cost not bad. long run worth it IMHO. i still use old fashioned cheap drives that are slower but *shrug*. have a good backup routine. have i had drives fail in the past? yup.

21 April at 13:12 | Open on zirk.us
Hugo Estrada

@hazelnot @brood It probably is cheaper to buy drives or CDs/DVDs in the long run. I think most of us end up singing up to different streaming services chasing the small collection or movies and show we watch over and over again

21 April at 13:21 | Open on functional.cafe
Daniel Brotherston
Ames

@danbrotherston @hugoestr @hazelnot @brood Clay tablets inscribed with cuneiform seem to be the most reliable media if long term survival is anything to go by.

21 April at 22:48 | Open on mastodon.nz
Brett Ritter
ehproque

@runoutgroover @danbrotherston @hugoestr @hazelnot @brood don't say it too loud or some tech bro will employ poor people at 0.5$ per day to encode your data in clay for improved resilience

22 April at 11:28 | Open on paquita.masto.host
Gussy

@hugoestr i still listen to 50c audio CDRs that i burned 20 years ago @hazelnot @brood

22 April at 2:10 | Open on aus.social
Wouter

@wall0159 @hugoestr @hazelnot @brood

Just don't lay them for longer times in the sun and they last long indeed.

23 April at 17:18 | Open on mastodon.social
manu
hazelnot :yell:

@brood cost is pretty bad though if your broke, HDDs aren't super expensive but they're not cheap either

21 April at 13:22 | Open on sunbeam.city
Benjamin Brood

@hazelnot you're right, also tough if you're very mobile, school, etc

21 April at 13:24 | Open on zirk.us
hazelnot :yell:

@brood to add to what I said earlier and counteract the negativity, instead of everyone being their own librarian what would be much nicer to see would be small community-shared libraries of media, from a few friends to, idk, whoever, potentially a whole neighborhood if it scales well enough

21 April at 16:20 | Open on sunbeam.city
Benjamin Brood

@hazelnot i like that idea, like a co-op. i think of the history of UbuWeb. "rogue libraries".

21 April at 16:31 | Open on zirk.us
Unreed EN

@brood @hazelnot It’s hard to imagine sharing a bookshelf. Everyone has his own way of sorting out. What’s a tempting idea that community cloud could handle a fraction of someone else’s data so you wouldn’t have to keep full second copy in separate location but host pieces for someone else.

22 April at 15:44 | Open on mastodon.social
Unreed EN

@brood @hazelnot Lets go further. You don’t need to be a nerd and have own rack. All you need is a small “Data Depot” run by a guy in an apartment building and a VPN tunel. Share the resources. Get data back to local communities. Even small local ISP could be that guy.

22 April at 16:13 | Open on mastodon.social
Longplay Games :pc_color: 🎮

@hazelnot @brood Last time I tried that, my lawyer suggested we bring it down after Germany attacked Project Gutenberg due to differences in public domain laws.

So if you do something like this, it needs to be completely offline and underground.

21 April at 16:43 | Open on mstdn.games
hazelnot :yell:

@Longplay_Games @brood doesn't have to be completely offline, but definitely underground (until capitalism collapses)

21 April at 16:49 | Open on sunbeam.city
æter

@hazelnot @brood

I have the privilege of the means to host a jellyfin server full of movies/music/books for my friends. I think every friend group needs someone like that.

21 April at 22:45 | Open on sb17.space
Richard W. Woodley NO THREADS 🇨🇦🌹🚴‍♂️📷 🗺️

@hazelnot @brood
or use your public libraries video collection, you might be surprised what is available

21 April at 23:38 | Open on mstdn.ca
Blue-Eyed Vibe Checker

@brood @hazelnot HDDs are mostly fine anyway.
A lot of media, movies, pictures, music, games pre-2019 etc. are fine on slower storage.
I have several 1TB drives I use solely to archive my games collections and they've never let me down aside from a preowned drive I took a gamble on because of its extra capacity.

22 April at 2:38 | Open on mas.to
Hugo 雨果

@Bigblue1106 @brood @hazelnot How do you handle the HDDs? An external reader? I've been thinking of using some for archival, but not sure it having them online 24/7 is a good idea.

23 April at 13:42 | Open on fosstodon.org
Blue-Eyed Vibe Checker

@whynothugo @brood @hazelnot I have a PCI-e SATA adapter with 6 SATA ports on it and switch the cables as and when I need a drive that isn't plugged in.
Of course I've labelled the drives so they're all sorted into categories.
But I don't leave them connected permanently unless I use them frequently.

This one: amazon.co.uk/Mavis-Laven-Contr

@whynothugo @brood @hazelnot I have a PCI-e SATA adapter with 6 SATA ports on it and switch the cables as and when I need a drive that isn't plugged in.
Of course I've labelled the drives so they're all sorted into categories.
But I don't leave them connected permanently unless I use them frequently.

23 April at 13:51 | Open on mas.to
River :therian:

@hazelnot @brood I've always dreamt about my own tape library (still broke and uneducated, though :fox_laugh_sweat:)

21 April at 23:08 | Open on gts.river.lgbt
ehproque

@hazelnot @brood I mean, I just bought two 4TB drives for roughly the cost of a one year subscription to Amazon Prime, so, yeah, it's not cheap but not crazy either.

22 April at 11:26 | Open on paquita.masto.host
hazelnot :yell:

@ehproque @brood I had to do some digging to find out how much that is, and... $140 is a lot of money lol

I guess they're HDDs, cause I saved up a bunch of money to buy a 2TB SSD this year and the one I was looking at originally was like 200€ 💀

Though it turns out my motherboard is too old to properly work with it so I'm gonna go for a slower one at about half the price

22 April at 11:36 | Open on sunbeam.city
ehproque

@hazelnot @brood yeah, an SDD is overkill for personal storage, that's for running your software or serving tons of files. But it probably fits all the music I can possibly want to store, at a reasonable bitrate.

22 April at 12:03 | Open on paquita.masto.host
hazelnot :yell:

@ehproque @brood hah yeah I wanna get it primarily for Baldur's Gate 3 cause I have the game but my current SSD is full and the loading times and level streaming are just atrocious from an HDD

22 April at 12:12 | Open on sunbeam.city
Santiago

@ehproque @hazelnot @brood it's a bit trickier with video. Im about to fill a 14TB drive. And Im very anxious about it because I don't have it backed up.
I would need to get another 14TB drive to back it up and by another one to keep being my own librarian 😬 ( so 56 TB in total if I wanted to back it all and keep going)

22 April at 15:07 | Open on masto.es
hazelnot :yell:

@sanzky @ehproque @brood oof yeah I make videos and stream and stuff and a lot of my storage space is taken up by video files

22 April at 15:13 | Open on sunbeam.city
ehproque

@hazelnot @sanzky @brood yeah video is on a different level, esp. if it's your own and not stuff you can download again if lost.

22 April at 18:03 | Open on paquita.masto.host
Severin

@brood if only you then wouldn't have to manage that library of stuff 🙈

21 April at 12:40 | Open on social.tchncs.de
Eric the Cerise

@brood

Currently maintaining ~10TB of stuff ... music, videos, books, offline Wikipedias, etc. Two copies of everything.

It's a drop in the bucket.

I want an offline backup of #SciHub. Willing to learn how to mirror it in exchange.

Open to suggestions.

Not joking.

#AlexandraElbakyan , are you on the 'Verse?

21 April at 13:03 | Open on kolektiva.social
Benjamin Brood

@ErictheCerise about the same. been doing it a long time. very worth it.

have recently been swapping out some of my OCIS owncloud repos w syncthing.net/

21 April at 13:06 | Open on zirk.us
PVs- Artist Marcia X
Clot
Willow

@brood@zirk.us would be awesome if public libraries could do stuff like that, they could keep media on those huge magnetic tapes that businesses use for backups and it would be less prohibitively expensive because of the economy of scale

unfortunately copyright ruins that idea, they would have to put drm on whatever they lend out to make sure you can't keep using it beyond the lending period :\

21 April at 16:11 | Open on blahaj.zone
brenna 🇧🇲🇺🇸

@brood (and also, support your local library)

21 April at 17:44 | Open on mastodon.social
Benjamin Brood

@brennx0r verily. and sadly overlooked.

21 April at 17:45 | Open on zirk.us
TheSecondVariation

I mean if you compare it to good old physical book times it is unbelievable cheap. You can get an SD card / USB stick for 15 dollar and have thousands of books on it.

@brood @brennx0r

21 April at 21:26 | Open on graz.social
Benjamin Brood

@TheSecondVariation @brennx0r i have old books on paper which do not exist digitally. i appreciate and use a reader for epubs etc., but _nothing_ replaces a real actual library. at least, i hope nothing ever will. for me that is keystone of a dystopia.

21 April at 21:36 | Open on zirk.us
brenna 🇧🇲🇺🇸
TheSecondVariation

Oh sure nothing against libraries. I would love there to be many many more public spaces.

@brennx0r @brood

22 April at 21:53 | Open on graz.social
freezeanopensore

@brennx0r @TheSecondVariation @brood

Most countries don't have them, in which case a $15 stick is hell of a great investment.

23 April at 17:02 | Open on infosec.exchange
brenna 🇧🇲🇺🇸

@freezeanopensore @TheSecondVariation @brood Most countries? Interesting. Can you name some of these countries? Generally speaking, we should try to introduce libraries to the nations that lack them.

23 April at 20:14 | Open on mastodon.social
jaschop
Glitzersachen.de
Aroop Roelofs :verified:

@brood I setup a Calibre-web just the other day (already used Calibre on desktop tho but now I can use my phone and laptop to read on-the-go too).

Music I pretty much always had stored on own servers and same for pictures.

If you dun have a local copy of it, it can be taken away at any moment.

21 April at 19:30 | Open on social.linux.pizza
Icarosity

@brood And print up everything you can.

21 April at 19:56 | Open on mastodon.social
Craig Nicol

@brood corollary - don't add content to services that don't let you download.

21 April at 21:57 | Open on octodon.social
Ceremus

@brood The number of times a movie fell off a service I was fscking paying for them to watch it on was certainly a factor in my setting up a NAS with a plex server. Now if I'm streaming a movie or show, 9 times out of 10 that's what I'm using.

21 April at 23:55 | Open on hachyderm.io
Morning Song

@brood I neglected to save the image I found on GIS many years back that I used as the reference for a coat that a character of mine wears and now I have no idea how accurately i remember it. D:

22 April at 1:25 | Open on weirder.earth
Kyle Brown

@brood things I wish someone had told my younger self

Luckily I think there's only two things that I desperately miss not having a copy of

22 April at 17:21 | Open on kind.social
JohnHedge

@brood The most cost-effective archival medium that I have found are M-Disc BluRay discs (25GB or 100GB for ~$2.60 / ~$13 respectively) with a stated 1000 year lifespan under controlled conditions that aren't too onerous.

23 April at 14:17 | Open on chaos.social
Pablo Lopez-Jamar

@brood No doubt about it. I recently discovered "Readeck", what a fantastic piece of gold to store articles :). (self-hosted opensource)

23 April at 22:10 | Open on social.sdf.org
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