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delProfundo

@bsdphk @LianaBrooks @jsrailton targeted hacking of the individuals during the investigation.

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Poul-Henning Kamp

@delProfundo @LianaBrooks @jsrailton

So if criminals are sufficiently competent, they're not criminals ?

Ténno Seremélʹ

@bsdphk If you don't have evidence you don't have evidence. “I know s/he is guilty” is not how justice is supposed to work. If it's your job to find evidence, do your job and find it without trampling rights of the people 🤷

@delProfundo @LianaBrooks @jsrailton

Poul-Henning Kamp

@tennoseremel @delProfundo @LianaBrooks @jsrailton

And my point is: That means that people sufficiently competent with cryptography can never be found guilty in white-collar crime ?

ENRON: "Sorry, lost the password" - Not guilty!

Really ?

Ténno Seremélʹ

@bsdphk If a few bits on a device you, as a police officer, do not control is your only evidence, then yes, you are out if luck. Work better.

@delProfundo @LianaBrooks @jsrailton

dexternemrod :qubes: replied to Ténno

@tennoseremel

@bsdphk @delProfundo @LianaBrooks @jsrailton

This! And in addition you would danger all other people.
That's like poisoning certain food in a restaurant only because some criminals order it:
You might get the criminal but also hurt innocent people (I think this is from Schneier).

Didier

@bsdphk @tennoseremel @delProfundo @LianaBrooks @jsrailton It can be solved with a few cameras in every house, you know? It's not that you have something to hide and it could prevent some child abuse. Extra benefit: you can have your e2ee in your chat, for now.

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