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come chat with us online, your options are:

- unencrypted faang client
- other unencrypted faang client
- other other unencrypted faang client
- encrypted faang client that is likely backdoored
- $20 profile microtransactions and constantly changing UX
- client with optional encryption and requires a phone number
- encrypted by default client that also requires a phone number
- 35 year old protocol lacking a lot of QOL features that people still use for some reason
- 25 year old protocol that nobody can agree on which extensions to use
- "unable to decrypt message"

15 April at 7:18 | Open on tech.lgbt
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framebuffer :archlinux: :gentoo: :tuxspin:

@Jenetrix@tech.lgbt

Me: "hey, your FOSS project is cool, do you have a group?"
them: "Yes, on Discord... wait, where did you go?"

15 April at 7:58 | Open on den.raccoon.quest
Menel :xmpp:

@Jenetrix
> 25 year old protocol that nobody can agree on which extensions to use

There were updates made to fix that, and the devs talk to each other.
xmpp.org/about/compliance-suit
๐Ÿ‘ :xmpp:

15 April at 18:51 | Open on nerdculture.de
Deividas Paukลกtฤ— :spinny_fox_gay:

@Menel @Jenetrix Me and my bf are self hosting the 25 year old protocol and itโ€™s pretty good so far. Conversations, the Android client just got an update to Material 3, so it actually feels modern too. The only thing I miss from using Fluffychat is all my neofoxes :neofox_cry:

16 April at 10:31 | Open on seafoam.space
vyivel :: Either Kira [๐Ÿ]
@Jenetrix i'll take the 35 year old protocol
16 April at 10:17 | Open on outerheaven.club
kuriko

@Jenetrix โ€œthis is why we use the number stations technique and just post encrypted messages as numbers on public timelines and decrypt with the one time pad that we exchange in person once every month

// 63405 33974 11028 29475 11007 94751 04751 04001 96481 67017 82900 91751 03861
// please do not try to crack that i either keymashed for three seconds (or you donโ€™t have the one time pad for it :3)

16 April at 10:20 | Open on tech.lgbt
vxo

@kuriko @Jenetrix it needs a spooky fading interval signal

16 April at 12:40 | Open on digipres.club
kuriko

@vxo @Jenetrix this hits me so hard :blobcatnotlikethisgoogly: bravo

16 April at 13:10 | Open on tech.lgbt
vxo

@kuriko @Jenetrix I still remember when I made that it was because I heard it echoing from a weak distant BGM speaker somewhere and thought, yes, this would be a perfect numbers station interval signal just barely peeking out of the airwaves

16 April at 13:11 | Open on digipres.club
๐Ÿšฒ

@Jenetrix >faang

amazon and netflix have a chat now? :floofWoozy:

16 April at 10:25 | Open on outerheaven.club
Riedler

@Jenetrix didn't signal stop requiring phone numbers?

16 April at 10:27 | Open on catcatnya.com
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@riedler still need one to sign up but you no longer need to share it to add people and now you can hide it to other users

16 April at 10:28 | Open on tech.lgbt
ljยทrk

@riedler @Jenetrix Not as such, yet. You can find each other w/o sharing your number and you can disable being found by number. So, privacy wise against 3rd parties you can completely decouple your phone number from your Signal account.

Currently a number is still required for the first time setup, although this requirement is likely getting dropped in the future now that the critical dependencies are gone.

16 April at 10:40 | Open on todon.eu
Mia Rose Winter :v_greyace:โ€‹

@Jenetrix I've written telegram support multiple times because my newly bought sim card number was apparently already in use or something

no answer to this day

16 April at 10:35 | Open on tech.lgbt
alina ๐ŸŒธ

@MiaWinter@tech.lgbt @Jenetrix@tech.lgbt telegram support is basically non-existent. if they didn't answer you within 24h after your first message โ€“ they probably never will.

i sure hope this will improve once they start making a profit and can focus on users instead of staying afloat...

16 April at 11:16 | Open on very.stupid.fish
skze

@MiaWinter @Jenetrix when i accidentally deleted the telegram app and installed it again it kept telling me that it sent the code to โ€œtelegram on my other deviceโ€ but i had no other device. it took me like 2 weeks to figure out a solution to this one (install telegram on a second phone without a sim card, try to sign in, and it will actually send you an sms, and then from the second phone you can verify the first)

16 April at 12:24 | Open on toot.cat
k

@MiaWinter @Jenetrix oh my god this reminds me of this awful pop up (someone already used the number, and I can't do anything about it)
16 April at 16:32 | Open on wetdry.world
Jima :Compromise_bi_flag:

@MiaWinter @Jenetrix A less-well-understood address depletion scenario. ๐Ÿ˜”

16 April at 17:26 | Open on mspsocial.net
Erethon

@Jenetrix I'll play devils advocate here and point two things. Encryption for public chatrooms doesn't provide any benefits, it's a public room already. Secondly, e2ee solutions if you don't verify identities/keys out of band provide no security either, you might be being mitm-ed and you won't know it unless you verify each other.

So it's important to note what your usecase is.

16 April at 10:54 | Open on libretooth.gr
Noble :frostbite:

@Jenetrix i hate how i can tell which apps you're talking about without anyone naming them
(i use $20 profile microtransactions and client with optional encryption โ€‹:normal_epic:โ€‹)

16 April at 11:26 | Open on wolfdo.gg
๐“ข๐”‚๐“ญ๐“ท๐“ฎ๐”‚ <3 :v_trans: :v_bi: :v_pat:

@Jenetrix I'll take federated gay twitter servers

16 April at 11:45 | Open on tech.lgbt
Ashley Graves
Petulant Crow Person (Powered by UltraSPARC)

@Jenetrix@tech.lgbt
- messenger
- hangouts
- ???
- what'sapp / RCS
- discord
- ???
- signal(?)
- IRC
- Failed to decrypt OMEMO message.
- Unable to decrypt message.

16 April at 12:02 | Open on mk.aleteoryx.me
M.O.M.O.

@Jenetrix@tech.lgbt

> 35 year old protocol lacking a lot of QOL features that people still use for some reason

MMO hub city map-wide chat is pretty durable tho

16 April at 12:06 | Open on mk.absturztau.be
bird(ie) ๐Ÿฆโ€:v_lesbian:

@Jenetrix
I have an XMPP, which I would love to use more, but the provider I found and used I quickly discovered periodically goes down. I have considered self hosting, but also like. it'd be nice if I could find a provider that doesn't do that :blobcatmeltcry: why does this have to be hard

16 April at 12:20 | Open on tech.lgbt
bird(ie) ๐Ÿฆโ€:v_lesbian:

@Jenetrix
The friend I signed up to communicate with in the first place saw all this and was like, "omg just get signal". This sounds more and more tempting

16 April at 12:21 | Open on tech.lgbt
magnetizedfreckles

@bugbird @Jenetrix session is better than signal imo. and it doesnโ€™t require a phone number (or any personal information) and this is awesome. plus it just works

16 April at 13:00 | Open on fe.disroot.org
Tulip

@Jenetrix@tech.lgbt ๐Ÿ”‘ Unable to decrypt message

16 April at 12:43 | Open on lea.pet
Gorgeous na Shock!

@Jenetrix "35 year old protocol lacking a lot of QOL features that people still use for some reason"

I think this list illustrates the reason pretty well... I'll make my own QoL features by adding a self-hosted bouncer like ZNC.

16 April at 13:10 | Open on mastodon.social
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yall making me miss being on irc...

16 April at 13:40 | Open on tech.lgbt
Dave/Loebas :verified_pride:
tef
@Jenetrix >that people still use for some reason

well, all you've gotta do is look at the rest of the list (not that every OMEMO issue I've had hasn't been solvable by deleting fingerprints to force-start a new session on gajim at least, but)
16 April at 14:18 | Open on ihatebeinga.live
ฺฉูˆุงฺฉูˆู…ุง

@Jenetrix Truly the age of mess aging :02lurk:

16 April at 15:00 | Open on uwu.social
derberg

@Jenetrix I'd like to see a study on happiness of users with their preferred platform/protocol and their average happiness in life including reasons they mention.

16 April at 16:54 | Open on fosspri.de
CaveDave

Oooh, a guessing game. Let's see ...

-Facebook messenger
-Hangouts
-Skype?
-WhatsApp
-dunno this one
-Telegram
-Signal
-SMS
-Email?
-matrix

So how'd I do?

16 April at 16:59 | Open on mastodon.social
creek

@Jenetrix oooh, I just joined "could not decrypt message"!
@pixel

16 April at 17:24 | Open on mspsocial.net
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DELETED

@Jenetrix what's the encrypted faang client that is likely backdoored?

16 April at 17:43 | Open on social.asafniv.me
Clygro
@Jenetrix 25 year old and unable to decrypt message are my preferred ones, should've mentioned that most of those are centralised too, which makes them worse
16 April at 17:48 | Open on labyrinth.zone
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