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Florian Schroiff

@beep luckily Tom’s Hardware only clocks in at 13,5mb on a desktop browser.

medium rare bird

@beep but actually this is working as intended so it isn't

nrk

@beep this thing -> upstash.com/ consumes 50mb+ heap size on startup , to display a static landing page.

For youtube, it is consistently 100mb+, for google, it is again 50mb.

IAG

@nrk9819 @beep I have a pretty solid phone (2019 flagship iirc) and this page brings it to its knees
And yet I can emulate 3DS games just fine, utter bullshit

Miss adderal girl
@iagondiscord @nrk9819 @beep I can play Wii and PS2 games. I can play fortnite AND watch YouTube at the same time on 2 screens
Yet some websites take a while to load.
mystie ฅ^•ﻌ•^ฅ
@nrk9819 fyi, heap size ≠ amount of downloaded data to render the page
sarah 🦦

@nrk9819 @beep excuse me, but this isnt a static landing page. it's a slideshow

nrk

@SRAZKVT "static" means consisting of static files that can be pre-generated and served to the client without processing per request. Static in case of websites doesn't mean devoid of interactive/animated components like a slideshow.

sarah 🦦

@nrk9819 no no i was making a joke about that websites performance, which reaches 2spf on my phone

FoolishOwl

@beep I've been wrestling with the idea of setting up a personal website, mostly as an exercise in setting up a workflow with git and MkDocs and so on. And the more I'd try to imagine doing it, the less enthusiasm I have for it.

And right now I'm thinking, what's the point of trying to do it "professionally", when the "professional" model is just obviously extremely bad?

FoolishOwl

@beep In recent years I've been in a couple of socialist groups that over-rely on the same software tools and practices for supporting them that prevail in the tech industry. It's understandable, but I think it's important to understand that many of these tools and practices have assumptions about social structure built into them and it's important to question them.

Ethan Marcotte

@foolishowl My goodness, I regret I have but one star to give this *extremely good* post 🏆💕

There are so many unacknowledged biases built into the tools we use. We have to acknowledge them if we ever want to stop disenfranchising people.

Eliot Lash

@foolishowl @beep Yeah, for my personal website I've been trying to make it less bloated. I used self-hosted WordPress for many years but got tired of the hosting costs going up and constant upgrades. A few years ago I migrated the whole thing to Jekyll/GitHub Pages and I've been pretty happy with this as the site is now static and hosting is free. I can't do anything beyond simple edits using my phone or support comments/ActivityPub, but overall it's worth it to me.

Sean

@Eliot_L
@foolishowl @beep

At one point I had a comments system running on a statically rendered Hugo site on GitHub pages, but Heroku, which I was using to power it, sunset their free tier. My immediate reaction was pleasure to not support comments any more.

csdummi

@foolishowl @beep don't be discouraged. The reason it's called bloat is because it is unnecessary for the site to function.

If you want a site that looks professional, it shouldn't and doesn't have to contain bloat.

Waka/Jawaka

@csdummi @foolishowl @beep You could easily argue that if a site is bloated then it is the opposite of professional.

Ethan Marcotte

@foolishowl I absolutely hear you. Personally, I’d love to hear *why* someone might exercise thought and restraint with how they built their portfolio; but for the broader industry, the incentives feel pretty thoroughly broken.

(I hope you do make your personal website, though!)

bimmer

@beep K.I.S.S. - the bane of execs, project owners, and UX designers across the board

Derrick Everett

@beep There is no possible excuse for a web page to have content larger than 1 GByte. One factor in this situation is web designers going mad with javascript.

Tom Walker

@beep This is very noticeable even on a standard recent (not low-end) phone if you switch between a 3D game and a web page: the game might get 60fps while the web page seems to be reaching about 5.

jake
@beep I feel like the amount of ads on that site make this post drown in its own irony.
Charles U. Farley

@beep @AMS "Why are you trying to use our web site on a phone? We told you 5 times to use our app!"

Tony Yarusso

@beep This very article had three different auto-playing videos, an animation, a comments section, and dozens of pictures for other articles and ads.

Ethan Marcotte

@TonyYarusso It may surprise you to learn that I, too, looked at that article before posting

Simon Müller :ablobcatcoffee:

@beep proud to say my blog is 3.5kb for the layout and CSS + 7.91kb for the Ko-Fi button, totaling 11,41kb

:)

کواکوما

@beep Funny how if opened without an adblocker, this page loads over 24 MiB of data :hehehe:

کواکوما

@beep ... and counting, it hasn't finished yet here! :scared_satania:

کواکوما

@beep Okay I lost my patience and stopped at 30 MiB, but it is *still* growing

This is nuts...

Yora

@koakuma @beep Employees can call out their own companies.

Mx Amber Alex

@beep I wonder what Mastodon instance they tested it with. It just says "site: Mastodon"

lnl

@amberage @beep author of the analysis has an account on mastodon.social so probably there?

Waka/Jawaka

@beep Some of us can remember the days when half the time taken when building a site was spent squeezing every last extra kilobyte out of the code and graphics. It's funny to think that it's nearly a quarter of a century since I escaped from the Web biz.

Tim Ward ⭐🇪🇺🔶 #FBPE

@beep And of course that is a vast web page with multiple video advertisements ...

Pandka

@beep As other commentators pointed out it is baffling that TomHardware site with aforementioned article is absolutely riddled with ads and horrible to read without any distractions. Site’s performance and UX be damned.

Sara Joy :happy_pepper:

@beep there's a big old cloud of irony over this of course - but - I'm glad such a big famous old and also bloaty website is running a story like this. More awareness, yes yes.

Charlie

@beep

> "As the testing above shows, some of the most brutally intensive websites include ... and basically every major social media platform."

I take exception to that. Mastodon loads pretty damn quickly, and it's the only social media site _I_ use daily.

But yes, that article is pretty accurate, and most large players will respond "just use our mobile app instead" (with the unspoken part being 'so we can track and sell literally everything you do, visit, and say')

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