@shi @ocean Ours are normally very good. No official porch delivery, most stuff comes with pin codes now, so you need the code to pick it up. Which can be turned into porch delivery if you can talk the driver into it: you say the code and they drop it wherever you want (since they got the confirmation of delivery by code), otherwise they won't. Most routes have set drivers so if you order a lot of stuff, you'll know them all (we have personal phone numbers for a few of them). They often offer to take larger items inside though that's not in their job description. One always comes in to pet the dog. But then every once in a while they get a new guy and shit can go either hilariously or annoyingly south.